11-10-2008, 03:06 PM | #1 |
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Unintended effects of LDS Church's Prop 8 involvement
Does anyone here (I see that marsupial does) have a family member/friend/close acquaintance (including yourself) whose testimony/support/faith of the LDS Church has been hampered by the Church's heavy backing of Prop 8? I do, and it's 100% not a case of "his/her testimony wasn't very strong to begin with" because it absolutely was.
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11-10-2008, 03:23 PM | #2 | |
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That said, I have many more friends/family/aquaintances whose testimony/support/faith has been greatly increased by the church's backing on this issue. As for me, nothing has changed with regard to how I feel about the LDS church or concerning my testimony of the restored gospel. |
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11-10-2008, 04:40 PM | #3 | |
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I am surprised at how effective those damned mormons were. In fact I have a sly grin at the power the mighty organization chose to swing. Disagree with the Church's position or disagree with the Church's foray into politics, but damn one has got to be impressed with the influence the Church had. I am not referring to the mobilizing members to vote, I am referring to mobilizing the Yes vote, of whom the LDS demagrapic is likely a small minority. My apologies to those who got shaken up that the LDS Church feels strongly about traditional marriage or that the LDS Church jumps into political issues on occassion. Perhaps a refresher course on LDS beliefs and LDS history might help them to see that this was not an enormous straying from previous policy. The loss of testimony of faithful members over this issue is best explained by Archaea's lack of innoculation theory, best I can tell.
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She had a psychiatrist who said because I didn't trust the water system, the school system, the government, I was paranoid," he said. "I had a psychiatrist who said her psychiatrist was stupid." |
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11-10-2008, 04:58 PM | #4 | |
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And what other political issues are you referring to that the LDS Church has jumped into like Prop 8? |
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11-10-2008, 05:00 PM | #5 |
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The M/X Missile project, a liberal cause celebre. It was impressive as well, derailing what a popular president wanted to do.
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11-10-2008, 05:35 PM | #6 |
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Malt liquor versus beer in Utah grocery stores, ERA, Idaho lottery, Prohibition...
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She had a psychiatrist who said because I didn't trust the water system, the school system, the government, I was paranoid," he said. "I had a psychiatrist who said her psychiatrist was stupid." |
11-10-2008, 05:36 PM | #7 | |
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Interesting, no?
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11-10-2008, 05:39 PM | #8 | |
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How do you know it was either unintended, as you say, or unexpected, as you imply?
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11-10-2008, 06:01 PM | #9 |
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airline deregulation, peri-mutuel betting, etc....
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11-10-2008, 06:16 PM | #10 | |
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Kimball was against the M/X missile project, a position that ran counter to conservative hawks at the time. But the extent of the church's effort was a First Presidency statement and little more. Not even close to the prop 8 case.
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