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DirtyHippieUTE · 01-20-2006, 02:08 PM

I don't know how this will go down with this audience, but I'll throw it out there anyway...

Let me give you my take on homosexuality and you tell me if I'm part of the problem.

For starers, everyone has a same sex attraction to a certain degree. This is why there is such a strong bond between friends, teemmates, companions, etc... It's normal, it's natural and it's healthy.

Of all the mental/chemical influences in the human mind, sexual desire is one of the most powerful and tricky. It is a need which REALLY wants to be fulfilled and when it goes out of whack, it puts alcoholism, drug addiction, depression, etc... to shame.

Sexual desire is almost never "perfect" in the mind. Some people lack sexual desire, some people are set on overdrive. Some people take their natural same sex attraction and it develops into a same sex attraction on a sexual level. Personally, I don't feel that some/most people have any control over how this happens.

So... Are people born gay? Yes, to a certain extent.

However, one of the challenges of this life is to put the carnal man beneath our feet. It doesn't matter whether it is same sex attraction, an attraction to porn or an attraction to your secretary, we have to put those desires in check.

I think it is 100% possible for someone to have a sexual attraction to the same sex and be a faithful member of the LDS church. As a matter of fact, I know at least two.

I don't know if this is where I'm wrong, but I just don't see a homosexual desire as anything different from a wandering heterosexual desire or a desire to look at porn. The man who feels a sexual attraction for another man is no "worse" than the man who feels a sexual attraction for someone other than his wife.

The fact of the matter is, the carnal man must be subjected to the spirit. If that means I have to overcome a sexual desire to be with other men, other women, or whatever (use your imagination), then that's what I have to do.

Homosexuality isn't a sickness, it's a desire like any other. The goal of life isn't to subject ourselves to our desires, it is to subject ourselves to the will of the Lord and to allow him to help us get thru life in spite of our desires.

01-20-2006, 02:08 PM	#11
DirtyHippieUTE Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Moscow, ID Posts: 1,151	I don't know how this will go down with this audience, but I'll throw it out there anyway... Let me give you my take on homosexuality and you tell me if I'm part of the problem. For starers, everyone has a same sex attraction to a certain degree. This is why there is such a strong bond between friends, teemmates, companions, etc... It's normal, it's natural and it's healthy. Of all the mental/chemical influences in the human mind, sexual desire is one of the most powerful and tricky. It is a need which REALLY wants to be fulfilled and when it goes out of whack, it puts alcoholism, drug addiction, depression, etc... to shame. Sexual desire is almost never "perfect" in the mind. Some people lack sexual desire, some people are set on overdrive. Some people take their natural same sex attraction and it develops into a same sex attraction on a sexual level. Personally, I don't feel that some/most people have any control over how this happens. So... Are people born gay? Yes, to a certain extent. However, one of the challenges of this life is to put the carnal man beneath our feet. It doesn't matter whether it is same sex attraction, an attraction to porn or an attraction to your secretary, we have to put those desires in check. I think it is 100% possible for someone to have a sexual attraction to the same sex and be a faithful member of the LDS church. As a matter of fact, I know at least two. I don't know if this is where I'm wrong, but I just don't see a homosexual desire as anything different from a wandering heterosexual desire or a desire to look at porn. The man who feels a sexual attraction for another man is no "worse" than the man who feels a sexual attraction for someone other than his wife. The fact of the matter is, the carnal man must be subjected to the spirit. If that means I have to overcome a sexual desire to be with other men, other women, or whatever (use your imagination), then that's what I have to do. Homosexuality isn't a sickness, it's a desire like any other. The goal of life isn't to subject ourselves to our desires, it is to subject ourselves to the will of the Lord and to allow him to help us get thru life in spite of our desires.