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jay santos · 08-22-2006, 04:23 PM

Back in the Crowton days, his apologists liked to blame everything on Lavell, such as the problem of having all Orem High school WR's.

I remember saying that Crowton was doing the same stuff--that the bottom 1/3 of his recruiting classes were filled with the same kind of "filler" material that gave us Chris Hale and Rod Wilkerson. (By the way, Crowton moved Rod to WR not Lavell).

Aaron Attig and Chase Warner were two of my examples. Small town Nevada LDS kids who nobody else recruited. Guys Crowton recruited and sent on missions. Now they're both back a year off their mission and have yet to crack the two deep at safety--in possibly the worst year of safety talent I can ever remember at BYU. That's the very definition of "filler".

This also plays into one of my observations of the program.

When you recruit, you have x amount of scholarships available based on # of seniors, and missionary plus or minus. You usually are pretty tight with those scholarships, you don't want to waste any of them. This is buying a recruit with cash and you can't go over, you're careful about it.

But you also have a group of kids that you say, we'll give you scholarship but we don't have one now, you'll have to go on mission and get one when you come home. This is buying a recruit on credit because you don't pay now. This group of recruits is almost always inferior talent wise. Attig and Warner fall into this category. I would recommend we stop this process. The criteria shouldn't be any different, because in two years you're always wishing you had more scholarships.

08-22-2006, 04:23 PM	#1
jay santos Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 6,177	Attig and Warner--buying recruits on credit Back in the Crowton days, his apologists liked to blame everything on Lavell, such as the problem of having all Orem High school WR's. I remember saying that Crowton was doing the same stuff--that the bottom 1/3 of his recruiting classes were filled with the same kind of "filler" material that gave us Chris Hale and Rod Wilkerson. (By the way, Crowton moved Rod to WR not Lavell). Aaron Attig and Chase Warner were two of my examples. Small town Nevada LDS kids who nobody else recruited. Guys Crowton recruited and sent on missions. Now they're both back a year off their mission and have yet to crack the two deep at safety--in possibly the worst year of safety talent I can ever remember at BYU. That's the very definition of "filler". This also plays into one of my observations of the program. When you recruit, you have x amount of scholarships available based on # of seniors, and missionary plus or minus. You usually are pretty tight with those scholarships, you don't want to waste any of them. This is buying a recruit with cash and you can't go over, you're careful about it. But you also have a group of kids that you say, we'll give you scholarship but we don't have one now, you'll have to go on mission and get one when you come home. This is buying a recruit on credit because you don't pay now. This group of recruits is almost always inferior talent wise. Attig and Warner fall into this category. I would recommend we stop this process. The criteria shouldn't be any different, because in two years you're always wishing you had more scholarships.