04-21-2008, 05:11 PM | #28 | |
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What part of the word "and" do you not understand? Please, by all means, give me the connotative meaning of "and." The one true God is being addressed. That one true God is distinguished from Jesus. You have the "one true God," and you have "Jesus." The passage distinguishes between the two with the word "and." Three chapters later Jesus tells Mary he is ascending to his God, Mary calls him "Lord" (Paul distinguishes between the Father who is God and Jesus who is Lord numerous times in his letters, and much to the dismay of trinitarians everywhere) and Thomas refers to Jesus as Lord and God (which Jesus neither confirms nor denys), and as you've mentioned, John teaches us all to be one even as the Father and Son are one. None of that changes the fact that in John 17:3, Jesus is not the one true God. Of course passages have different ideas about this subject. The fact remains that your paraphrase of John 17:3 was inaccurate and the passage does not buttress your POV.
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