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MikeWaters · 02-28-2012, 05:13 PM

Is that Mormons are painted with a broad brush as inauthentic, phony, vacillating, no moral compass just because these things (accurately) describe Mitt Romney.

However that doesn't mean that a Mormon ought not vote for Romney. Vote for the candidate you believe will best lead this nation. A vote for Romney in the hopes of it "helping" the church is foolhardy.

MikeWaters · 02-28-2012, 07:02 PM

*foolish.

Foolhardy is the wrong adjective in this case.

Archaea · 02-28-2012, 11:46 PM

I think Mitt being President will harm the Church, but believe is the best available choice.

I am not certain how many more failures and gaffes his campaign can endure.

ute4ever · 02-29-2012, 01:32 AM

This morning while watching a live campaign in Michigan on CNN, Mitt essentially said, "unlike my opponents, I'm not going to resort to spending my time saying negative things about President Obama. I would rather point out the positives from my own track record, which include success in the private sector, [etc.]..."

Seriously, Mitt? It was recently reported that 99% of your campaign ads were negative, an all-time high by any candidate in any party. And now you're suddenly on the high road? The best part was his opening line, "unlike my opponents..."

Real positive opening there, Mitt.

On a side note, considering that his entire life has been lived as one of the 1% wealthiest Americans, when was the last time that anyone has ever stood up to him about anything on any level? He's always been the rich guy. The uber-wealthy neighbor. The CEO. The one in charge. The Stake President. His entire life has been one person after another kissing his ass. "You're right, Mr. Romney." "Great idea, Bishop." "I wish I was as smart as you, sir."

MikeWaters · 02-29-2012, 05:19 AM

Yeah, Mitt has never been to cougarguard and gotten the treatment from Mike Waters.

ChinoCoug · 02-29-2012, 01:19 PM

I know Romney may not be the best example of the believers, but don't you think his presidency will help in the long run by making us seem more mainstream and less cultish?

RedHeadGal · 02-29-2012, 08:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ute4ever

This morning while watching a live campaign in Michigan on CNN, Mitt essentially said, "unlike my opponents, I'm not going to resort to spending my time saying negative things about President Obama. I would rather point out the positives from my own track record, which include success in the private sector, [etc.]..."

Seriously, Mitt? It was recently reported that 99% of your campaign ads were negative, an all-time high by any candidate in any party. And now you're suddenly on the high road? The best part was his opening line, "unlike my opponents..."

Real positive opening there, Mitt.

On a side note, considering that his entire life has been lived as one of the 1% wealthiest Americans, when was the last time that anyone has ever stood up to him about anything on any level? He's always been the rich guy. The uber-wealthy neighbor. The CEO. The one in charge. The Stake President. His entire life has been one person after another kissing his ass. "You're right, Mr. Romney." "Great idea, Bishop." "I wish I was as smart as you, sir."

http://http://www.washingtonpost.com...0gR_story.html

ute4ever · 03-02-2012, 09:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RedHeadGal

http://http://www.washingtonpost.com...0gR_story.html

Good article. Propaganda at its finest, but a good review nonetheless. Here's a corrected link:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinio...0gR_story.html

ute4ever · 03-13-2012, 02:30 AM

The closer we get to the election, I've noticed a trend becoming more apparent, which is that the LDS members who are the most gung-ho about Romney are those who grew up outside of Utah. Those who perhaps felt more religious prejudice over the years, than those who've lived the majority of their lives from inside the Zion curtain. Could it be that subconsciously, electing Romney is like giving the finger to every bully, pseudo-bully and bigot that they've encountered?

And blacks claim they didn't vote for Obama simply because he's black...

MikeWaters · 03-13-2012, 03:46 AM

growing up Mormon must be a very different experience when 1) you are the dominant culture, and 2) you are a weirdo fringe culture.

I think the Utah strain of Mormonism (obviously) controls Mormonism.

I wouldn't want to live in Utah, too much of a culture shock.

02-28-2012, 05:13 PM	#1
MikeWaters Demiurge Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 36,365	The risk of Romney Is that Mormons are painted with a broad brush as inauthentic, phony, vacillating, no moral compass just because these things (accurately) describe Mitt Romney. However that doesn't mean that a Mormon ought not vote for Romney. Vote for the candidate you believe will best lead this nation. A vote for Romney in the hopes of it "helping" the church is foolhardy.

02-28-2012, 11:46 PM	#3
Archaea Assistant to the Regional Manager Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: The Orgasmatron Posts: 24,338	I think Mitt being President will harm the Church, but believe is the best available choice. I am not certain how many more failures and gaffes his campaign can endure. __________________ Ἓν οἶδα ὅτι οὐδὲν οἶδα

02-29-2012, 01:19 PM	#6
ChinoCoug Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: NOVA Posts: 3,005	I know Romney may not be the best example of the believers, but don't you think his presidency will help in the long run by making us seem more mainstream and less cultish? __________________ 太初有道

02-28-2012, 07:02 PM	#2
MikeWaters Demiurge Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 36,365	*foolish. Foolhardy is the wrong adjective in this case.

02-29-2012, 01:32 AM	#4
ute4ever I must not tell lies Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 5,103	This morning while watching a live campaign in Michigan on CNN, Mitt essentially said, "unlike my opponents, I'm not going to resort to spending my time saying negative things about President Obama. I would rather point out the positives from my own track record, which include success in the private sector, [etc.]..." Seriously, Mitt? It was recently reported that 99% of your campaign ads were negative, an all-time high by any candidate in any party. And now you're suddenly on the high road? The best part was his opening line, "unlike my opponents..." Real positive opening there, Mitt. On a side note, considering that his entire life has been lived as one of the 1% wealthiest Americans, when was the last time that anyone has ever stood up to him about anything on any level? He's always been the rich guy. The uber-wealthy neighbor. The CEO. The one in charge. The Stake President. His entire life has been one person after another kissing his ass. "You're right, Mr. Romney." "Great idea, Bishop." "I wish I was as smart as you, sir."

02-29-2012, 05:19 AM	#5
MikeWaters Demiurge Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 36,365	Yeah, Mitt has never been to cougarguard and gotten the treatment from Mike Waters.

03-13-2012, 02:30 AM	#9
ute4ever I must not tell lies Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 5,103	The closer we get to the election, I've noticed a trend becoming more apparent, which is that the LDS members who are the most gung-ho about Romney are those who grew up outside of Utah. Those who perhaps felt more religious prejudice over the years, than those who've lived the majority of their lives from inside the Zion curtain. Could it be that subconsciously, electing Romney is like giving the finger to every bully, pseudo-bully and bigot that they've encountered? And blacks claim they didn't vote for Obama simply because he's black...

03-13-2012, 03:46 AM	#10
MikeWaters Demiurge Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 36,365	growing up Mormon must be a very different experience when 1) you are the dominant culture, and 2) you are a weirdo fringe culture. I think the Utah strain of Mormonism (obviously) controls Mormonism. I wouldn't want to live in Utah, too much of a culture shock.