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Old 12-15-2008, 04:13 AM   #1
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Default Who's the little vs. big brother?

Utah goes undefeated twice in the last 5 years. They go to the BCS bowl twice in the last 5 years. And BYU? Right now, unfortunately, Utah is the big brother.
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Utah goes undefeated twice in the last 5 years. They go to the BCS bowl twice in the last 5 years. And BYU? Right now, unfortunately, Utah is the big brother.
I'm sure you enjoy the fact that your team is back.

Don't worry; the things Alabama is about to do to Utah will diminish the luster of this season, though it won't reduce the check BYU will get. Besides, you ought not forget that in the Mendenhall and Whittingham era, BYU and Utah split their match-ups 2-2. BYU has two conference championships; Utah has one. BYU has also won more games in the last four years than Utah has. Sure, Utah had the better year this year. At the beginning of the year, BYU was at the top; if BYU can go undefeated next year, or even just win the conference, they'll be at the top again.

If you want to evaluate and compare the programs, you need to take a step back and use a little perspective.
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The demise of Whittingham that seemed so obvious in the past couple of years has turned into an "oh no, he is actually better than we thought" and now people that had crowned Bronco a living football-prophet are starting to parse through his corporate-speak, wondering if he isn't pulling off one of the biggest con jobs in college football. Firesides, the least practice of any team, the least amount of work by any coaching staff, and almost nothing in the way of big-time wins.

Bronco thanks God for Crowton every night. Because BYU fans, even if getting a little antsy, realize that these are pretty good times. Even compared to the end of the Lavell era.

In fact, this may be about as good as it gets.
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There isn't much difference between BYU and Utah this year. People need to relax. Whit isn't suddenly the greatest coach alive, and Bronco isn't suddenly a coach who has taken his team as far as they can go.

Both BYU and Utah were fortunate to play a soft OOC schedule this year. Utah got their toughest games all at home (OSU, BYU, TCU), and BYU got all of their toughest games on the road. Anae called a terrible game against Utah (leaving the game in Hall's hands, when Hall was clearly having a very bad day and when the running game was clearly having a very good day). Things could very easily have gone the other way and BYU could be the BCS team or both BYU and Utah could be 1 loss teams (Utah to BYU, BYU to TCU) with BSU then being acclaimed as the greatest non-BCS team.

Utah caught the scheduling breaks this year and they had a decent team that could take advantage of that fact. Kudos to them. BYU's schedule sets up similarly next year. I expect BYU to take advantage of that fact as well.
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Old 12-15-2008, 03:24 PM   #5
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There isn't much difference between BYU and Utah this year. People need to relax. Whit isn't suddenly the greatest coach alive, and Bronco isn't suddenly a coach who has taken his team as far as they can go.

Both BYU and Utah were fortunate to play a soft OOC schedule this year. Utah got their toughest games all at home (OSU, BYU, TCU), and BYU got all of their toughest games on the road. Anae called a terrible game against Utah (leaving the game in Hall's hands, when Hall was clearly having a very bad day and when the running game was clearly having a very good day). Things could very easily have gone the other way and BYU could be the BCS team or both BYU and Utah could be 1 loss teams (Utah to BYU, BYU to TCU) with BSU then being acclaimed as the greatest non-BCS team.

Utah caught the scheduling breaks this year and they had a decent team that could take advantage of that fact. Kudos to them. BYU's schedule sets up similarly next year. I expect BYU to take advantage of that fact as well.
just watching your OC call a lousy game and not making any adjustments. In fact it fell on Collie to make a half-time speech to the team during the Air Force game to fire up the troops......not Bronco. And Max wasn't that upset with losing the Utah game........read his comments after the game. He put it all in perspective.......family, Thanksgiving dinner, etc. Which is great. But I want football players to focus on football and let the clergy do their part on the 'perspective' speech.
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just watching your OC call a lousy game and not making any adjustments. In fact it fell on Collie to make a half-time speech to the team during the Air Force game to fire up the troops......not Bronco. And Max wasn't that upset with losing the Utah game........read his comments after the game. He put it all in perspective.......family, Thanksgiving dinner, etc. Which is great. But I want football players to focus on football and let the clergy do their part on the 'perspective' speech.
Good thing you are an ex-exUte then. You don't have to worry about this stuff.
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anything better than that?

Correct me if I am wrong, but even BYU wanted Kyle as their No. 1 guy. Discussions had been going on ever since the middle of Crowton's last year at BYU.
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Correct me if I am wrong, but even BYU wanted Kyle as their No. 1 guy. Discussions had been going on ever since the middle of Crowton's last year at BYU.
Correct me if I am wrong, but Ute fans were calling for Kyle's head at the beginning of this season. It was widely thought that if he struggled through this year, he could be fired. Now people think he is the next Urban Meyer. Kyle is a decent coach. He isn't a great coach. He didn't get Utah to 2 BCS games. He got them to 1, and he did it with a great schedule and some luck against TCU. Bronco has been much more consistent. Sure, I want BYU in a BCS game, but I also want a consistently good program. Bronco is providing that program for the Y. It is yet to be seen if Kyle can do the same with the U (especially if he leaves for greener pastures). BYU wanted Kyle. So far, I am glad they didn't get him. Maybe Kyle will prove me wrong in the future, but it will take more than 1 season.

Aren't you happy to be an ex-exie again?
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Correct me if I am wrong, but Ute fans were calling for Kyle's head at the beginning of this season. It was widely thought that if he struggled through this year, he could be fired. Now people think he is the next Urban Meyer. Kyle is a decent coach. He isn't a great coach. He didn't get Utah to 2 BCS games. He got them to 1, and he did it with a great schedule and some luck against TCU. Bronco has been much more consistent. Sure, I want BYU in a BCS game, but I also want a consistently good program. Bronco is providing that program for the Y. It is yet to be seen if Kyle can do the same with the U (especially if he leaves for greener pastures). BYU wanted Kyle. So far, I am glad they didn't get him. Maybe Kyle will prove me wrong in the future, but it will take more than 1 season.

Aren't you happy to be an ex-exie again?
are jealous of the U at this point. How can you not be. Two BCS bowls and two undefeated seasons. When was the last time we did either and they did it twice in recent memory. We talked about going BCS bowling.......they did.
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are jealous of the U at this point. How can you not be. Two BCS bowls and two undefeated seasons. When was the last time we did either and they did it twice in recent memory. We talked about going BCS bowling.......they did.
Because Utah has fans like you, I can safely say I will never be jealous of them.
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