You enlightened few who realize prophets and apostles are not infallible,

[SeattleUte]

and are less literal in your faith, I think it's time you started appreciating the joys of good wine. What say you? Why not?

[Levin]

Originally Posted by SeattleUte

and are less literal in your faith, I think it's time you started appreciating the joys of good wine. What say you? Why not?

Have you been drinking tonight? Just promise you'll get a designated driver to take you home from wherever you are right now.

[CardiacCoug]

Originally Posted by SeattleUte

and are less literal in your faith, I think it's time you started appreciating the joys of good wine. What say you? Why not?

A glass or two per day is good for your heart, too. So there is also medical justification -- maybe some docs would even prescribe it if people want that to rationalize it.

[SeattleUte]

Originally Posted by CardiacCoug

A glass or two per day is good for your heart, too. So there is also medical justification -- maybe some docs would even prescribe it if people want that to rationalize it.

Helps you unwind too. Stress is a killer.

[MikeWaters]

Originally Posted by CardiacCoug

A glass or two per day is good for your heart, too. So there is also medical justification -- maybe some docs would even prescribe it if people want that to rationalize it.

source? are you saying that cardiologists disregard the design flaws demonstrated in the old studies, where people who had quit drinking were counted as abstainers?

[SeattleUte]

Originally Posted by MikeWaters

source?

My doctor.

[CardiacCoug]

Originally Posted by MikeWaters

source? are you saying that cardiologists disregard the design flaws demonstrated in the old studies, where people who had quit drinking were counted as abstainers?

I would say most cardiologists consider the observational data (obviously not randomized, prospective studies) supporting the benefits of moderate alcohol consumption in preventing coronary artery disease to be fairly convincing.

I agree with you that there is a ton of bias and multiple confounding factors associated with those studies, though. People who drink moderately, especially those that drink wine, are self-selected to be healthier and to have superior socioeconomic profiles that cannot be adequately adjusted for no matter how hard people try.

I was mostly just egging on SU with my post, although the idea that alcohol may protect against coronary artery disease doesn't bother me at all.

[SeattleUte]

Originally Posted by CardiacCoug

I would say most cardiologists consider the observational data (obviously not randomized, prospective studies) supporting the benefits of moderate alcohol consumption in preventing coronary artery disease to be fairly convincing.

I agree with you that there is a ton of bias and multiple confounding factors associated with those studies, though. People who drink moderately, especially those that drink wine, are self-selected to be healthier and to have superior socioeconomic profiles that cannot be adequately adjusted for no matter how hard people try.

I was mostly just egging on SU with my post, although the idea that alcohol may protect against coronary artery disease doesn't bother me at all.

I take it this is your field.

It's not mine but I think mostly that moderate wine consupmtion doesn't hurt you.

[CardiacCoug]

Originally Posted by SeattleUte

I take it this is your field.

It's not mine but I think mostly that moderate wine consupmtion doesn't hurt you.

Nope, there are no proven negative effects from moderate wine consumption -- probably a few health benefits but that is not definitively proven.

[SeattleUte]

Originally Posted by CardiacCoug

Nope, there are no proven negative effects from moderate wine consumption -- probably a few health benefits but that is not definitively proven.

My doctor said the rule is you can't drink more than your doc. He said I'm well within the range.