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Archaea · 11-03-2007, 09:45 PM

BYU was very unimpressive, and looks to be living on borrowed time.

Nothing good came from this game.

SteelBlue · 11-03-2007, 09:53 PM

Well, I can't actually see the game, but I'll take a blowout win (I'm not counting the CSU score in garbage time against the backup QB). I'm curious as to what other good you were expecting to come from this game. Collie got involved as well as Reed. The running game was sufficient.

Archaea · 11-03-2007, 09:54 PM

They were sloppy, inefficient at times and the running game didn't actually look that great.

Hall needs to look sharper in future games for us to continue to win.

woot · 11-03-2007, 10:04 PM

Hall had easily his best game of the season. Other than 2 fumbles, he looked about as good as we could ever hope for. His rating was about 50 points higher this game than in his best previous game.

Unga still looks good, but we didn't go to him as much. It's clear CSU's strategy was to force us to pass.

I was surprised the D gave up so many yards, but they still looked sharp overall.

I'm still not a huge fan of the play calling, as there were times when the blitz was obviously on and we didn't have anything to counter it, but I'll still assume that we're just saving the interesting plays for when we need them. The next month should be some good football.

Archaea · 11-03-2007, 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by woot

Hall had easily his best game of the season. Other than 2 fumbles, he looked about as good as we could ever hope for. His rating was about 50 points higher this game than in his best previous game.

Unga still looks good, but we didn't go to him as much. It's clear CSU's strategy was to force us to pass.

I was surprised the D gave up so many yards, but they still looked sharp overall.

I'm still not a huge fan of the play calling, as there were times when the blitz was obviously on and we didn't have anything to counter it, but I'll still assume that we're just saving the interesting plays for when we need them. The next month should be some good football.

You casually overlook the fumbles one, where he just didn't recognize the blitz package?

woot · 11-03-2007, 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Archaea

You casually overlook the fumbles one, where he just didn't recognize the blitz package?

I don't think either of us are in a position to decide whether either fumble was his fault. The first one he got snowed under way too fast, so either he didn't recognize it or the blocking was terrible. An OL recovered that one so no harm done. The second one the guy came untouched from the safety spot, so who knows whose responsibility that was, but the OL has proven its inability to pick up blitzes, so there's probably some blame to go around.

It seems silly to bring up Max Hall as being one of your biggest concerns after he puts up a 205 rating. If he played every game like this one he'd be winning the Heisman as a sophomore.

TripletDaddy · 11-03-2007, 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Archaea

They were sloppy, inefficient at times and the running game didn't actually look that great.

Hall needs to look sharper in future games for us to continue to win.

I dont get it. isnt what you described how BYU always plays, even when we are allegedly good?

You just described pretty much every win except the home opener in the Staley/Doman year. Although our running game was nice with Staley, almost every other aspect of our team was suspect.

This year is more of the same. Luckily we play in the MWC!

bluegoose · 11-03-2007, 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Archaea

Hall needs to look sharper in future games for us to continue to win.

22/30 with 355 yards and 3 TDs. Sounds pretty sloppy to me.

Granted I didn't see a single play of the game, but I'll take that stat line and a dubbya every week.

non sequitur · 11-04-2007, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Archaea

They were sloppy, inefficient at times and the running game didn't actually look that great.

Hall needs to look sharper in future games for us to continue to win.

We had 461 yards of total offense in 69 attempts. That's nearly seven yards an attempt. How much more efficient should they be?

The reason the running game didn't look that great is because CSU was trying to take away the run from us and force us to pass (which makes sense if they watched our last 3 games). There's a reason that Max Hall had a PER over 200.

RockyBalboa · 11-04-2007, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by non sequitur

We had 461 yards of total offense in 69 attempts. That's nearly seven yards an attempt. How much more efficient should they be?

The reason the running game didn't look that great is because CSU was trying to take away the run from us and force us to pass (which makes sense if they watched our last 3 games). There's a reason that Max Hall had a PER over 200.

CSU was commonly stacking 8 or 9 men in the box determined to stop the run.

11-03-2007, 09:45 PM	#1
Archaea Assistant to the Regional Manager Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: The Orgasmatron Posts: 24,338	Perhaps this will engender disagreement in the ranks, but BYU was very unimpressive, and looks to be living on borrowed time. Nothing good came from this game. __________________ Ἓν οἶδα ὅτι οὐδὲν οἶδα

11-03-2007, 09:54 PM	#3
Archaea Assistant to the Regional Manager Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: The Orgasmatron Posts: 24,338	They were sloppy, inefficient at times and the running game didn't actually look that great. Hall needs to look sharper in future games for us to continue to win. __________________ Ἓν οἶδα ὅτι οὐδὲν οἶδα

11-03-2007, 09:53 PM	#2
SteelBlue Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Norcal Posts: 5,821	Well, I can't actually see the game, but I'll take a blowout win (I'm not counting the CSU score in garbage time against the backup QB). I'm curious as to what other good you were expecting to come from this game. Collie got involved as well as Reed. The running game was sufficient.

11-03-2007, 10:04 PM	#4
woot Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Denver Posts: 1,502	Hall had easily his best game of the season. Other than 2 fumbles, he looked about as good as we could ever hope for. His rating was about 50 points higher this game than in his best previous game. Unga still looks good, but we didn't go to him as much. It's clear CSU's strategy was to force us to pass. I was surprised the D gave up so many yards, but they still looked sharp overall. I'm still not a huge fan of the play calling, as there were times when the blitz was obviously on and we didn't have anything to counter it, but I'll still assume that we're just saving the interesting plays for when we need them. The next month should be some good football.