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Jim Swarthout · 02-26-2008, 07:53 PM

I'm trying to get an informal feel for how person's view on homosexuality is affected by their relationships with homosexuals. I believe that those of us who have close friends/family who are gay are more sympathetic to those issues than those who do not. Votes are private.

SoCalCoug · 02-26-2008, 07:55 PM

Yes. (Not a boyfriend, though)

MikeWaters · 02-26-2008, 07:56 PM

why do you assume that some here wouldn't have both friend and family ?

creekster · 02-26-2008, 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeWaters

why do you assume that some here wouldn't have both friend and family ?

Exactly. I have both.

woot · 02-26-2008, 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by creekster

Exactly. I have both.

Both of my parents are gay. I'm not, but my boyfriend is.

TripletDaddy · 02-26-2008, 08:03 PM

Both...close friend (and roommate at BYU for years) as well as cousin.

splitbamboo · 02-26-2008, 08:15 PM

I was in a threesome in the MTC. I've since found out that both these companions are gay (one went home early, soon after arriving in Japan, the other came out at grad school--the U... what am I to make of that?

).

I was in the mission office with another companion and later BYU roommate who is gay. The other elder in the office was what you would stereotypically think was gay, so with what I know now, I wonder...

I feel really naive. All this around me and all I could think about was myself and how to be a decent missionary. Didn't even see it.

When I first found out about the one MTC companion last year, I thought about him EVERY day for about four months. Since then I have thought about him probably weekly. I have read tons about the issue since then. I am still trying to formulate a coherent thought around this.

This missionary was the most Christ-like person I have ever met. Today he does advocacy for battered wives. He has done an incredible amount of good. On one hand, I wish that I could be more like him. On the other hand...

Jim Swarthout · 02-26-2008, 08:23 PM

My earliest experience with a gay person was with a spouse of a sibling who left the marriage after a few kids. It was a very painful experience for our family. So for a long time, my feelings toward homosexuals were particularly negative. Although recently, I have come to befriend a co-worker who is gay and find this person to be one of the kindest, most genuine people I have ever met. We have this couple to our home for dinner on a regular basis.

My views on homosexuality, gay marriage, adoption, etc. have dramatically changed as a result. I wonder if people in the 50s and 60s felt this way when they befriended African Americans and realized that we're all alike.

All-American · 02-26-2008, 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by splitbamboo

I was in a threesome in the MTC. I've since found out that both these companions are gay (one went home early, soon after arriving in Japan, the other came out at grad school--the U... what am I to make of that?

).

You had a threesome with two gay missionaries?

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When I first found out about the one MTC companion last year, I thought about him EVERY day for about four months. Since then I have thought about him probably weekly.

Hmm.

Archaea · 02-26-2008, 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by All-American

You had a threesome with two gay missionaries?

Hmm.

Not exactly the threesome I've dreamt of, but to each his own I guess.

View Poll Results: Do you have gay friend(s) or family member(s)?
Friend	14	32.56%
Family	16	37.21%
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02-26-2008, 07:53 PM	#1
Jim Swarthout Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: San Diego Posts: 143	Do you have a close friend or family member who is homosexual? I'm trying to get an informal feel for how person's view on homosexuality is affected by their relationships with homosexuals. I believe that those of us who have close friends/family who are gay are more sympathetic to those issues than those who do not. Votes are private. __________________ "Reject the basic assumption of civilization, especially the importance of material possessions." - Tyler

02-26-2008, 07:55 PM	#2
SoCalCoug Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Orange County, California Posts: 3,059	Yes. (Not a boyfriend, though) __________________ Get your stinking paws off me, you damned, dirty Yewt! "Now perhaps as I spanked myself screaming out "Kozlowski, say it like you mean it bitch!" might have been out of line, but such was the mood." - Goatnapper "If you want to fatten a pig up to make the pig MORE delicious, you can feed it almost anything. Seriously. The pig is like the car on Back to the Future. You put in garbage, and out comes something magical!" - Cali Coug

02-26-2008, 08:03 PM	#6
TripletDaddy Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Orange County, CA Posts: 9,483	Both...close friend (and roommate at BYU for years) as well as cousin. __________________ Fitter. Happier. More Productive. "Everyone is against me. Everyone is fawning for 3D's attention and defending him." -- SeattleUte

02-26-2008, 08:23 PM	#8
Jim Swarthout Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: San Diego Posts: 143	My earliest experience with a gay person was with a spouse of a sibling who left the marriage after a few kids. It was a very painful experience for our family. So for a long time, my feelings toward homosexuals were particularly negative. Although recently, I have come to befriend a co-worker who is gay and find this person to be one of the kindest, most genuine people I have ever met. We have this couple to our home for dinner on a regular basis. My views on homosexuality, gay marriage, adoption, etc. have dramatically changed as a result. I wonder if people in the 50s and 60s felt this way when they befriended African Americans and realized that we're all alike. __________________ "Reject the basic assumption of civilization, especially the importance of material possessions." - Tyler

02-26-2008, 07:56 PM	#3
MikeWaters Demiurge Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 36,365	why do you assume that some here wouldn't have both friend and family ?

02-26-2008, 08:15 PM	#7
splitbamboo Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 144	I was in a threesome in the MTC. I've since found out that both these companions are gay (one went home early, soon after arriving in Japan, the other came out at grad school--the U... what am I to make of that? ). I was in the mission office with another companion and later BYU roommate who is gay. The other elder in the office was what you would stereotypically think was gay, so with what I know now, I wonder... I feel really naive. All this around me and all I could think about was myself and how to be a decent missionary. Didn't even see it. When I first found out about the one MTC companion last year, I thought about him EVERY day for about four months. Since then I have thought about him probably weekly. I have read tons about the issue since then. I am still trying to formulate a coherent thought around this. This missionary was the most Christ-like person I have ever met. Today he does advocacy for battered wives. He has done an incredible amount of good. On one hand, I wish that I could be more like him. On the other hand...