The Times and McCain

[8ballrollin]

Isn't the Times having premature electulation by running this type of story now and not after the conventions?

A female lobbyist had been turning up with him at fund-raisers, visiting his offices and accompanying him on a client’s corporate jet. Convinced the relationship had become romantic, some of his top advisers intervened to protect the candidate from himself — instructing staff members to block the woman’s access, privately warning her away and repeatedly confronting him, several people involved in the campaign said on the condition of anonymity.

I think it's a legitimate piece, for sure. And I await similar pieces about Mr Obama's past on the front page of the Times.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/21/us...mccain.html?hp

[Cali Coug]

Originally Posted by 8ballrollin

Isn't the Times having premature electulation by running this type of story now and not after the conventions?



I think it's a legitimate piece, for sure. And I await similar pieces about Mr Obama's past on the front page of the Times.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/21/us...mccain.html?hp

I agree. You should have some pretty convincing evidence before publishing something like that (and the evidence needs to be more than some unidentified source "close to the campaign").

[Mormon Red Death]

Originally Posted by Cali Coug

I agree. You should have some pretty convincing evidence before publishing something like that (and the evidence needs to be more than some unidentified source "close to the campaign").

Its the New York Times! All the news that's fit to make up.

[SeattleUte]

This is much ado about nothing. Who cares, except it may make us see McCain as not quite so old as we did before.

Nobody is living under an illusion that any of these people are "squeaky clean." An eight year old story about office gossip is a non-starter.

[BYU71]

Originally Posted by Adam

You guys are completely missing the point. The story isn't about McCain and some bimbo (why is the girl always the bimbo?). The story is about McCain's double standards--he professes to be above ethical question and has repeatedly been guilty of ugly conflict of interests.

The story about the possible girlfriend lobbyist for whom McCain helps with legislation is one example. The flying one donor jets is another. The Keating five case is another. And the story lists others.

The piece isn't a hit job. It highlights how McCain isn't as squeeky clean as he claims/represents to be. I think it is legit.

Come on. Who really believes he is squeeky clean, maybe the media. They have been the ones that hype his "straight talk" stuff. Don't you find it at the very least humorous, that now his buddies are going to be the ones to dash the myth they created.

An I.Q. over 90 allows you to figure out none of them are squeeky clean. Of course most people who rely on the media have under 90 IQ's. Therefor those folks will continue to scream "yes we can".

[RC Vikings]

Originally Posted by Adam

The piece isn't a hit job. It highlights how McCain isn't as squeeky clean as he claims/represents to be. I think it is legit.

The only time this guy was squeaky clean was his 6 years in Hanoi.

[SeattleUte]

Democrats need to be careful. They know their guy isn't squeaky clean, and that's why Cali is disaproving. Mark my words, Obama is a swordsman.

[RC Vikings]

Originally Posted by SeattleUte

Democrats need to be careful. They know their guy isn't squeaky clean, and that's why Cali is disaproving. Mark my words, Obama is a swordsman.

The sword play won't be what gets him in trouble. It's the drug use that they will focus on. Also look for a picture of a mock Obama cabinet with Jackson and Sharpton in it. That should scare people into the voting booth.

[SeattleUte]

The title of the Times article says it all. It's a reverse puff piece:

"The Long Run: For McCain, Self-Confidence on Ethics Poses Its Own Risk"

What a crock. I'm expecting better from the Times in the coming months.

[Frank Ryan]

Originally Posted by 8ballrollin

Isn't the Times having premature electulation by running this type of story now and not after the conventions?



I think it's a legitimate piece, for sure. And I await similar pieces about Mr Obama's past on the front page of the Times.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/21/us...mccain.html?hp

that is a total cheapshot article.

that is definitely unethical journalism