If you were an LDS recruit being recruited

[BYU71]

to Baylor. Let's say they were good and you thought you could start and you really liked Texas.

During the recruiting process they told you they believed in certain rules in order to maintain the atmoshpere the school wants. How would you feel.

How would you feel if they added, these rules are given to us by the leaders who are Gods spokesmen here on earth and therefor the rules are how God wants you to live.

Now I have a rebellious nature. If Baylor handled it the second way I described, I would tell them to kiss my butt and leave.

[Goatnapper'96]

Originally Posted by BYU71

to Baylor. Let's say they were good and you thought you could start and you really liked Texas.

During the recruiting process they told you they believed in certain rules in order to maintain the atmoshpere the school wants. How would you feel.

How would you feel if they added, these rules are given to us by the leaders who are Gods spokesmen here on earth and therefor the rules are how God wants you to live.

Now I have a rebellious nature. If Baylor handled it the second way I described, I would tell them to kiss my butt and leave.

Even people who like Texas are not particularly fond of Waco.

[BYU71]

Originally Posted by Goatnapper'96

Even people who like Texas are not particularly fond of Waco.

It is still a good analogy. Even people who like Utah are not particularly fond of Provo.

[Indy Coug]

Originally Posted by BYU71

to Baylor. Let's say they were good and you thought you could start and you really liked Texas.

During the recruiting process they told you they believed in certain rules in order to maintain the atmoshpere the school wants. How would you feel.

How would you feel if they added, these rules are given to us by the leaders who are Gods spokesmen here on earth and therefor the rules are how God wants you to live.

Now I have a rebellious nature. If Baylor handled it the second way I described, I would tell them to kiss my butt and leave.

I was the only LDS student at a private high school in Chattanooga with a Presbyterian minister for a headmaster and a student body chock full of rabid evangelicals.

I'd do just fine.

[BYU71]

Originally Posted by Indy Coug

I was the only LDS student at a private high school in Chattanooga with a Presbyterian minister for a headmaster and a student body chock full of rabid evangelicals.

I'd do just fine.

I think you would. I think you would succumb to blind obedience no matter where you were.

[Indy Coug]

Originally Posted by BYU71

I think you would. I think you would succumb to blind obedience no matter where you were.

Blind obedience? How about simply having the integrity of agreeing to live your life in accordance to the standards they've made known to you ahead of time?

I don't think you even know what blind obedience means.

[BYU71]

Originally Posted by Indy Coug

Blind obedience? How about simply having the integrity of agreeing to live your life in accordance to the standards they've made known to you ahead of time?

I don't think you even know what blind obedience means.

I guess it depends on how one defines integrity. To me telling them their rules don't come from God defines my integrity. I would tell them I will obey their rules because those are the rules of the school, but don't ask me to act like or tell anyone I believe they come from God.

[Indy Coug]

Originally Posted by BYU71

I would tell them I will obey their rules because those are the rules of the school, but don't ask me to act like or tell anyone I believe they come from God.

What kind of bizarre hypothetical are you dreaming up here? Where would anyone have to declare that the rules come from God?

[BYU71]

Originally Posted by Indy Coug

What kind of bizarre hypothetical are you dreaming up here? Where would anyone have to declare that the rules come from God?

So now I am not allowed to dream up hyotheticals. Seems to be a lot of animosity building between the evangleical faith and the mormon faith. I hear people say all the time they expect players, members and non-members to represent our faith and what it stands for. I had a parent of a non-member player tell me point blank she was not happy at all that her kid was expected to do that.

So my dream up is not that much of a stretch. However, I know your stance on the subject and appreciate it.

[BYU71]

Originally Posted by Indy Coug

What kind of bizarre hypothetical are you dreaming up here? Where would anyone have to declare that the rules come from God?

Indy, I will leave you with this to ponder. For BYU to become better and better, folks are going to have to give up on the idea that good always trumps evil. That God wants us to win so we can do missionary work. That the saying faith without works is dead applies especially to BYU football. I know that is contrary to the Collie catch and the blocked field goal belief by some that God did that. I believe hard work and the players did it. God was busy somewhere else. Maybe a dieing child or someone praying to get a testimony.

Think outside of the box. It is quite possible as someone told me that people of other faiths are offended being told they have to represent the church. Tell them they need to represent the school, let them figure out the school represents the church.