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Runner Coug · 09-09-2008, 11:21 PM

http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmi..._on_a_pig.html

Wow.

I'll give him the benefit of the doubt that he wasn't specifically referring to Palin when he talks about a pig, but for a guy that's supposedly smart, that's a pretty stupid thing to say.

And then to say something that can be construed as referring to a woman as an "old fish"...wow.

If I were running McCain's campaign, I would have Palin come out swinging. The risk, though, is that they make her look tougher than McCain.

Tex · 09-09-2008, 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Runner Coug

http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmi..._on_a_pig.html

Wow.

I'll give him the benefit of the doubt that he wasn't specifically referring to Palin when he talks about a pig, but for a guy that's supposedly smart, that's a pretty stupid thing to say.

And then to say something that can be construed as referring to a woman as an "old fish"...wow.

If I were running McCain's campaign, I would have Palin come out swinging. The risk, though, is that they make her look tougher than McCain.

My first reaction was to give him the benefit of the doubt, until I heard the audio. He lead into the comment with a review of Palin's record and then the crowd roared when he said it. I don't think there's any question they caught the double meaning.

Wow, he's bad off teleprompter.

8ballrollin · 09-09-2008, 11:47 PM

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BarbaraGordon · 09-09-2008, 11:58 PM

It's amazing that Obama's team could have run a nearly flawless primary campaign and look so lost and confused in the general. They don't seem to have any strategy or offense at all. It's really weird. It's like watching a team go undefeated in the regular season and then blow it in the bowl game.

Archaea · 09-10-2008, 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by BarbaraGordon

It's amazing that Obama's team could have run a nearly flawless primary campaign and look so lost and confused in the general. They don't seem to have any strategy or offense at all. It's really weird. It's like watching a team go undefeated in the regular season and then blow it in the bowl game.

It seems clear their plan was to defeat Hillary, not to win the general. It's much akin to teams in the Big 12 wanting to win the conference without paying much attention to winning pesky meaningless BCS bowl games. Is that the reference you're making?

BarbaraGordon · 09-10-2008, 03:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Archaea

It seems clear their plan was to defeat Hillary, not to win the general. It's much akin to teams in the Big 12 wanting to win the conference without paying much attention to winning pesky meaningless BCS bowl games. Is that the reference you're making?

Holiday Bowl's sounding better all the time.

SeattleUte · 09-10-2008, 03:15 AM

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Originally Posted by BarbaraGordon

It's amazing that Obama's team could have run a nearly flawless primary campaign and look so lost and confused in the general. They don't seem to have any strategy or offense at all. It's really weird. It's like watching a team go undefeated in the regular season and then blow it in the bowl game.

Oh oh. This is what you said about McCain just before he started his current roll.

BarbaraGordon · 09-10-2008, 03:16 AM

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Originally Posted by SeattleUte

Oh oh. This is what you said about McCain just before he started his current roll.

I was remembering that as I was typing.

Obama's finally requested help from 527s. This may get real ugly real fast.

Levin · 09-10-2008, 04:11 PM

Obama was not referring to Palin, and he followed the pig comment with the stinky fish comment. Now, women are often referred to as stinky fish, but it's clear that Obama was using a well-worn saying that McCain has employed in this campaign. It was perhaps not smart to use the saying, but it was not aimed at Palin, and I think the McCain camp is unwise to use it against him. It will turn off many independents as ugly and opportunistic politicking.

BYU71 · 09-10-2008, 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Levin

Obama was not referring to Palin, and he followed the pig comment with the stinky fish comment. Now, women are often referred to as stinky fish, but it's clear that Obama was using a well-worn saying that McCain has employed in this campaign. It was perhaps not smart to use the saying, but it was not aimed at Palin, and I think the McCain camp is unwise to use it against him. It will turn off many independents as ugly and opportunistic politicking.

Why do you think the audience laughed a lot harder at the "pig" joke than they did the "stinky fish" joke. Perhaps they caught on better than you??

09-09-2008, 11:21 PM	#1
Runner Coug Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 945	Obama's not going to win over the ladies this way http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmi..._on_a_pig.html Wow. I'll give him the benefit of the doubt that he wasn't specifically referring to Palin when he talks about a pig, but for a guy that's supposedly smart, that's a pretty stupid thing to say. And then to say something that can be construed as referring to a woman as an "old fish"...wow. If I were running McCain's campaign, I would have Palin come out swinging. The risk, though, is that they make her look tougher than McCain.

09-10-2008, 04:11 PM	#9
Levin Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 1,484	Obama was not referring to Palin, and he followed the pig comment with the stinky fish comment. Now, women are often referred to as stinky fish, but it's clear that Obama was using a well-worn saying that McCain has employed in this campaign. It was perhaps not smart to use the saying, but it was not aimed at Palin, and I think the McCain camp is unwise to use it against him. It will turn off many independents as ugly and opportunistic politicking. __________________ "Now I say that I know the meaning of my life: 'To live for God, for my soul.' And this meaning, in spite of its clearness, is mysterious and marvelous. Such is the meaning of all existence." Levin, Anna Karenina, Part 8, Chapter 12

09-09-2008, 11:58 PM	#4
BarbaraGordon Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Gotham City Posts: 7,157	It's amazing that Obama's team could have run a nearly flawless primary campaign and look so lost and confused in the general. They don't seem to have any strategy or offense at all. It's really weird. It's like watching a team go undefeated in the regular season and then blow it in the bowl game.