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Old 08-11-2006, 06:02 PM   #1
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Default Would your opinion of homosexuals change....

if it was proven that homosexualism was not a choice, and a matter of genetic disposition?

Do you think the stance of the church would change?

Would this affect the way you view God and this probation?
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Old 08-11-2006, 06:06 PM   #2
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Old 08-11-2006, 06:11 PM   #3
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I'm interested, why not?
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if it was proven that homosexualism was not a choice, and a matter of genetic disposition?

Do you think the stance of the church would change?

Would this affect the way you view God and this probation?
People's views might change, but it would take a long time. It took over a hundred years for the church to abandon its bigotry against blacks. I'm sure there was a time in church history when leaders were saying things like, "We love the colored man, but we hate the skin." And I'm sure in the future there will be some authoritative church leader who will proclaim that those with lisps and high voices were less valient in the preexistence.
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Mine is not rooted in what the cause is.

It simply is against biological purpose and design.

There is a reason for male and female.

And there are economic benefits for the union and social benefits.

There is no purpose and is no economic benefit for the same sex union.

Anything against logical design or purpose should be not treated the same, nor would your hypotheticals affect my opinion how we should view it.

I don't believe if we find genetic disposition toward bipolar disorder, pedofilia or other social disorders that we should deem them socially acceptable simply because of genetic causation.
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I don't believe if we find genetic disposition toward bipolar disorder, pedofilia or other social disorders that we should deem them socially acceptable simply because of genetic causation.
So in other words you would see a genetic disposition towards homosexuality as a sickness?

What's the purpose of that sickness in the eternal realm of things if it comes from creation?
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So in other words you would see a genetic disposition towards homosexuality as a sickness?

What's the purpose of that sickness in the eternal realm of things if it comes from creation?
God puts things into motion, with a very complex calculus, knowing bad thigns spin out of control by virtue of how evolution works. There are disorders, aberrations from the norm. Some are positive, hence natural selection and some are negative, hence disorders, which inhibit normal functioning.

Sicknesses originate from a bacterial or viral dysfunction. Disorders are more complex originating out of genetic imperfections.

Somebody with SSA has a disorder disallowing or inhibiting that person from normal male-female functioning, at least at the emotional level.

Interaction between same sexes on a sexual level may be normal for them, but it's not normal when taken into context the primal purpose of male-female sexual interaction.

It is normal for a person with bipolar disorder to experience manic and depressive mood swings, but that inhibits interaction at the same level of functionality of non-disordered persons.

Functionality of humans is to be determined along expected performance levels. Obviously deviations from expectations are to be expected but not desired.
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So in other words you would see a genetic disposition towards homosexuality as a sickness?

What's the purpose of that sickness in the eternal realm of things if it comes from creation?
What would the purpose of any sexual perversion be? There's quite a lot of them--most aren't sanctioned by God at least the way I understand the gospel.

Take it further, it's not just about sex, why would God create man with any genetic disposition to commit any kind of sin? What good would a genetic disposition to lose my temper give me?

Putting off the natural man seems to be a real basic and logical part of the gospel. Why the hang up with it?
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Take it further, it's not just about sex, why would God create man with any genetic disposition to commit any kind of sin?
He didn't he deemed us perfect as we are upon creation.

When Adam, aka us, was created God saw what he had done and said that it was good, that he was satisfied with the creation.

In other words God is ok with the homosexual.

I think the ramifications of 'discovering' that homosexualism is not a choice, but born with, will be far greater than simply the status quo.
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