BYU not "lock" for tourney - cougarguard.com — unofficial BYU Cougars / LDS sports, football, basketball forum and message board

MikeWaters · 02-22-2007, 07:13 PM

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/bubble...t&lid=tab5pos1

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Memphis, Air Force, Butler, UNLV and Nevada remain locks. BYU is all but there, too.

Brigham Young [20-6 (11-2), RPI: 21, SOS: 55] Rolled past New Mexico to stay on track. Just getting the two remaining home games at the inpenetrable Marriott Center might very well be enough -- or just get one at SDSU or Air Force. The lack of any nonconference heft is the only thing holding the Cougars back from lock status, but that might not matter. The Mountain West looks very good to get three bids this season.

UteStar · 02-22-2007, 07:47 PM

With that RPI of 21...there is no way that they are not a lock. Now, if BYU goes out and loses the rest of the games in conference and lose in the first round of the conference tourney, that would look terrible (4 straight losses) but even then, they would probably get in.

Detroitdad · 02-22-2007, 08:00 PM

I think last night put us into lock status. If we had lost out including last night then we would have been outside. Now it's about seeding.

Insensitive PAP · 02-22-2007, 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeWaters

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/bubble...t&lid=tab5pos1

there is a good chance we lose the next 2 games and end up in a 3 way tie for the conference championship. If that happens, we have the worst resume of the 3 teams, and a first round loss would put us in a borderline situation with the committee.

I think the MWC gets exactly 3 bids, so we need to root for AFA or UNLV to win the tourney, if we don't, to ensure we get in.

RockyBalboa · 02-22-2007, 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Insensitive PAP

there is a good chance we lose the next 2 games and end up in a 3 way tie for the conference championship. If that happens, we have the worst resume of the 3 teams, and a first round loss would put us in a borderline situation with the committee.

I think the MWC gets exactly 3 bids, so we need to root for AFA or UNLV to win the tourney, if we don't, to ensure we get in.

Agreed. I don't think BYU is a lock for the tourney just yet. Splitting the SDSU/AFA road trip I think will do that. But if we lose both road games, beat Utah at home, and lose our first round MWC Tourney game...then I don't think we're a lock at all.

jay santos · 02-22-2007, 10:34 PM

What's the definition of "lock"? I don't think the definition is that if you lose all your remaining games you're still in. A more reasonable definition to me is that you could finish poorly and still make it, which I would read winning at a minimum one more game anyway.

If we do that, and finish 1-3, it would be a travesty to gut excluded from tournament. The top 45 teams in the nation make the tourney, so it would mean we went from #21 to #46 with three losses, including two road losses that were somewhat expected. We would still finish top 30 in the RPI. We would still be co-champs in a good conference. We would still be 7-3 in our last 10 games. I see no possible way of that happening.

Now finishing 0-4, I can see the possibility of getting excluded. But that would require complete melt down, and we probably wouldn't deserve it anyway.

il Padrino Ute · 02-23-2007, 01:26 AM

I just don't see any reason for BYU to not be in the tournament.

That said, we're talking about the NCAA and it's selection committee, so anything is possible.

02-23-2007, 01:26 AM	#7
il Padrino Ute Board Pinhead Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: In the basement of my house, Murray, Utah. Posts: 15,941	I just don't see any reason for BYU to not be in the tournament. That said, we're talking about the NCAA and it's selection committee, so anything is possible. __________________ "The beauty of baseball is not having to explain it." - Chuck Shriver "This is now the joke that stupid people laugh at." - Christopher Hitchens on IQ jokes about GWB.

02-22-2007, 07:47 PM	#2
UteStar Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 1,817	With that RPI of 21...there is no way that they are not a lock. Now, if BYU goes out and loses the rest of the games in conference and lose in the first round of the conference tourney, that would look terrible (4 straight losses) but even then, they would probably get in.

02-22-2007, 08:00 PM	#3
Detroitdad Resident Jackass Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Roswell, New Mexico Posts: 1,846	I think last night put us into lock status. If we had lost out including last night then we would have been outside. Now it's about seeding.

02-22-2007, 10:34 PM	#6
jay santos Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 6,177	What's the definition of "lock"? I don't think the definition is that if you lose all your remaining games you're still in. A more reasonable definition to me is that you could finish poorly and still make it, which I would read winning at a minimum one more game anyway. If we do that, and finish 1-3, it would be a travesty to gut excluded from tournament. The top 45 teams in the nation make the tourney, so it would mean we went from #21 to #46 with three losses, including two road losses that were somewhat expected. We would still finish top 30 in the RPI. We would still be co-champs in a good conference. We would still be 7-3 in our last 10 games. I see no possible way of that happening. Now finishing 0-4, I can see the possibility of getting excluded. But that would require complete melt down, and we probably wouldn't deserve it anyway.