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NorCal Cat · 10-24-2007, 12:30 AM

Or ones that involve more people than necessary?

I vote for missionary correlation meeting. Why do members from the auxiliary groups, and ward missionaries all need to be there? The ward mission leader should simply meet with the Elders, and then email/call the other leaders regarding any help the Elders need with fellowshipping, splits, etc.

Archaea · 10-24-2007, 12:34 AM

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Originally Posted by NorCal Cat

Or ones that involve more people than necessary?

I vote for missionary correlation meeting. Why do members from the auxiliary groups, and ward missionaries all need to be there? The ward mission leader should simply meet with the Elders, and then email/call the other leaders regarding any help the Elders need with fellowshipping, splits, etc.

Didn't know such a meeting existed.

myboynoah · 10-24-2007, 12:36 AM

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Originally Posted by NorCal Cat

Or ones that involve more people than necessary?

I vote for missionary correlation meeting. Why do members from the auxiliary groups, and ward missionaries all need to be there? The ward mission leader should simply meet with the Elders, and then email/call the other leaders regarding any help the Elders need with fellowshipping, splits, etc.

So you guys are actually doing that? They tried to start that in my old stake and I nearly joined SU on the dark side (but my kids wouldn't qualify for those fancy shmancy schools). Happily it died out in our ward. What's a WML for if you have that meeting?

Yes, very redundant.

NorCal Cat · 10-24-2007, 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Archaea

Didn't know such a meeting existed.

You're joking right? Ward missionary correlation meeting?

NorCal Cat · 10-24-2007, 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by myboynoah

So you guys are actually doing that? They tried to start that in my old stake and I nearly joined SU on the dark side (but my kids wouldn't qualify for those fancy shmancy schools). Happily it died out in our ward. What's a WML for if you have that meeting?

Yes, very redundant.

Well, they're trying anyway. I finally went to one last week. The ward mission leader was there, along with the Elders, and me. Complete waste of my time.

BigFatMeanie · 10-25-2007, 06:23 AM

My take on the various meetings:

- PEC - the meeting where the 2nd most work gets done. The most work gets done in regular bishopric meeting.
- Ward Council - The meeting where the women take most of the time yakking. Ward council usually breaks out like this: 30 minutes for the RS, 15 minutes for the YW, 15 minutes for the Primary, 30 secs. for the high priests, 30 secs. for the Elders, 30 secs. for the sunday school, 30 secs. for the YM. The fact that the Sunday School president is supposed to be in this meeting shows what a complete joke of a meeting this is. The Sunday School president is simply a vestigial calling that is completely worthless (some people like those kinds of callings).
- Welfare meeting - Better than Ward Council because I don't believe the YM/YW/Primary are there. The agenda is basically the same - talk about stuff in the ward, regardless of whether it's really a 'welfare' issue or not.
- Never even heard of missionary correlation meeting. It sounds completely useless.
- "Key Scouters" (or whatever they call that meeting where the YM presidency, scoutmaster, scout committee leader, bishopric, etc. are all present) is so mind-numbingly dull that I've never been able to stay awake through an entire session.

Jeff Lebowski · 10-25-2007, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by BigFatMeanie

My take on the various meetings:

- PEC - the meeting where the 2nd most work gets done. The most work gets done in regular bishopric meeting.
- Ward Council - The meeting where the women take most of the time yakking. Ward council usually breaks out like this: 30 minutes for the RS, 15 minutes for the YW, 15 minutes for the Primary, 30 secs. for the high priests, 30 secs. for the Elders, 30 secs. for the sunday school, 30 secs. for the YM. The fact that the Sunday School president is supposed to be in this meeting shows what a complete joke of a meeting this is. The Sunday School president is simply a vestigial calling that is completely worthless (some people like those kinds of callings).
- Welfare meeting - Better than Ward Council because I don't believe the YM/YW/Primary are there. The agenda is basically the same - talk about stuff in the ward, regardless of whether it's really a 'welfare' issue or not.
- Never even heard of missionary correlation meeting. It sounds completely useless.
- "Key Scouters" (or whatever they call that meeting where the YM presidency, scoutmaster, scout committee leader, bishopric, etc. are all present) is so mind-numbingly dull that I've never been able to stay awake through an entire session.

Amen on all counts.

Many years ago I was the SS President (a position which should be abolished) and I was baffled as to why I should be in Ward Council.

Archaea · 10-25-2007, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by NorCal Cat

You're joking right? Ward missionary correlation meeting?

No. Of course, I've attended lots of meetings for which I never knew the names. I was a stake missionary many times, and other missionary positions, and attended a bunch of meetings.

I can't even keep PEC, Welfare, Ward Council and some of those other meetings straight.

FMCoug · 10-25-2007, 03:57 PM

Couldn't agree more.

I'm a ward missionary. The worst part about our weekly correlation meeting is that it's only 30 minutes long and is at 8:00 on Sunday mornings. And the church is 30 minutes from my house. Oh and our meetings are 12:30-3:30. So I have to drag my but out of bed early, put on a tie and drive an hour round trip for a 30 minute meeting that is usually worthless.

Clark Addison · 10-25-2007, 04:36 PM

I was recently WML. Normal Coordination Meetings were me, the Ward Missionaries, and the FT Missionaries. I didn't want to invite anyone else, because

- Most of the people I'd invite already have enough meetings
- I could get everything done I needed to by following up afterwards

However, every single missionary that came through asked me why we didn't invite more people, and thought I was a loser WML (probably not far off), so I finally relented and started inviting everyone else one meeting per month, and I would make that meeting last 15 minutes after church. After I was released, the new WML started getting everyone there for every meeting.

My expert opinion is that this meeting is completely unnecessary if the following two conditions exist:

1. The missionaries only cover one ward
2. The missionaries attend PEC

10-24-2007, 12:30 AM	#1
NorCal Cat Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Where do you think? Posts: 1,201	Most unnecessary leadership meeting? Or ones that involve more people than necessary? I vote for missionary correlation meeting. Why do members from the auxiliary groups, and ward missionaries all need to be there? The ward mission leader should simply meet with the Elders, and then email/call the other leaders regarding any help the Elders need with fellowshipping, splits, etc.

10-25-2007, 06:23 AM	#6
BigFatMeanie Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: South Jordan Posts: 1,725	My take on the various meetings: - PEC - the meeting where the 2nd most work gets done. The most work gets done in regular bishopric meeting. - Ward Council - The meeting where the women take most of the time yakking. Ward council usually breaks out like this: 30 minutes for the RS, 15 minutes for the YW, 15 minutes for the Primary, 30 secs. for the high priests, 30 secs. for the Elders, 30 secs. for the sunday school, 30 secs. for the YM. The fact that the Sunday School president is supposed to be in this meeting shows what a complete joke of a meeting this is. The Sunday School president is simply a vestigial calling that is completely worthless (some people like those kinds of callings). - Welfare meeting - Better than Ward Council because I don't believe the YM/YW/Primary are there. The agenda is basically the same - talk about stuff in the ward, regardless of whether it's really a 'welfare' issue or not. - Never even heard of missionary correlation meeting. It sounds completely useless. - "Key Scouters" (or whatever they call that meeting where the YM presidency, scoutmaster, scout committee leader, bishopric, etc. are all present) is so mind-numbingly dull that I've never been able to stay awake through an entire session.

10-25-2007, 03:57 PM	#9
FMCoug Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Kaysville, UT Posts: 3,151	Couldn't agree more. I'm a ward missionary. The worst part about our weekly correlation meeting is that it's only 30 minutes long and is at 8:00 on Sunday mornings. And the church is 30 minutes from my house. Oh and our meetings are 12:30-3:30. So I have to drag my but out of bed early, put on a tie and drive an hour round trip for a 30 minute meeting that is usually worthless.

10-25-2007, 04:36 PM	#10
Clark Addison Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: North Carolina Posts: 638	I was recently WML. Normal Coordination Meetings were me, the Ward Missionaries, and the FT Missionaries. I didn't want to invite anyone else, because - Most of the people I'd invite already have enough meetings - I could get everything done I needed to by following up afterwards However, every single missionary that came through asked me why we didn't invite more people, and thought I was a loser WML (probably not far off), so I finally relented and started inviting everyone else one meeting per month, and I would make that meeting last 15 minutes after church. After I was released, the new WML started getting everyone there for every meeting. My expert opinion is that this meeting is completely unnecessary if the following two conditions exist: 1. The missionaries only cover one ward 2. The missionaries attend PEC