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Old 06-18-2007, 03:52 PM   #1
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Default Extraordinary Rendition - The best of both worlds

Those who support enhanced interrogation techniques (torture) have the comfort of knowing that the suspected terrorists being questioned by agents in Uzbekistan, Egypt, Syria and other like nations. Those opposed to these methods can rest well knowing that it isn't our guys doing the dirty work.

As a bonus, it's an international effort so we're developing allies in the process.

See, Win-Win.

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Old 06-18-2007, 04:03 PM   #2
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Those who support enhanced interrogation techniques (torture) have the comfort of knowing that the suspected terrorists being questioned by agents in Uzbekistan, Egypt, Syria and other like nations. Those opposed to these methods can rest well knowing that it isn't our guys doing the dirty work.

As a bonus, it's an international effort so we're developing allies in the process.

See, Win-Win.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extraordinary_rendition
I love ER! And the Uzbeks are my favorite allies. They really go all out...asphyxiation, boilings, genital mutilation. Thanks to all those meddling kids snooping around, we'd never get away with that kind of stuff at Gitmo.
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I love ER! And the Uzbeks are my favorite allies. They really go all out...asphyxiation, boilings, genital mutilation. Thanks to all those meddling kids snooping around, we'd never get away with that kind of stuff at Gitmo.
Thus, what happens at Gitmo is "child's play" by comparison.
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Old 06-18-2007, 04:31 PM   #4
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So, should the 'childs play' acts at Gitmo stay the course and not change. This is an argument that I never understand. Yes, there are some real bad people that do horrible things to our people and our soldiers. Shouldn't we stay away from all forms of torture to truly serperate us from them?

Yes, waterboarding may not be cutting off someone's genitals...but does it mean that we should still do these lesser things? Where do we draw the line on how far we are willing to go?
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Thus, what happens at Gitmo is "child's play" by comparison.
This argument reminds me so much of my time teaching kindergarten. Whenever I would ask a child "were you throwing rocks?" The child would answer "Well, he was throwing bigger rocks."
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Old 06-18-2007, 05:53 PM   #6
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This argument reminds me so much of my time teaching kindergarten. Whenever I would ask a child "were you throwing rocks?" The child would answer "Well, he was throwing bigger rocks."
And it would have been ok to throw huge rocks, as long as someone else was throwing knives.
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Thus, what happens at Gitmo is "child's play" by comparison.
I believe this is the thread you were asking for in an earlier conversation. Go ahead and enlighten us all on your thoughts on ER.
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Old 06-18-2007, 06:18 PM   #8
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It's called a cost/benefit analysis and all of us are using different equations.
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Old 06-18-2007, 08:02 PM   #9
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It's called a cost/benefit analysis and all of us are using different equations.
No, it isn't. It is called weak PR. It is torturing people and endorsing torture while spinning it to the press that you had nothing to do with it. It is a feeble attempt to hold the moral high ground.

Exactly what benefit do you ascribe to being complicit in torturing a human being without your own country doing the actual deed? Any answer over zero in that analysis is, I believe, nothing more than a farce.

It brings to mind Pontius Pilate washing his hands of Christ's fate.
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