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SoCalCoug · 04-23-2007, 09:36 PM

but I'm finally reading the McKay biography. I'm into the chapter about blacks and the priesthood.

It seems to me (assuming that the facts in the book are true) that when you state that the church hierarchy (on the whole, with a few exceptions) in the 1960's was racist, you are merely stating a fact (i.e., the sky is blue), rather than a criticism.

Very fascinating.

RockyBalboa · 04-23-2007, 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by SoCalCoug

but I'm finally reading the McKay biography. I'm into the chapter about blacks and the priesthood.

It seems to me (assuming that the facts in the book are true) that when you state that the church hierarchy (on the whole, with a few exceptions) in the 1960's was racist, you are merely stating a fact (i.e., the sky is blue), rather than a criticism.

Very fascinating.

Actually I would like to read it as well.

I apologize, but am going to assume you're talking about David O. McKay's biography? Did he write it or was someone else commissioned to?

Thanks.

Jeff Lebowski · 04-23-2007, 09:42 PM

It's a fascinating book. Somehow we need to get SU to read it. At least the chapter you mentioned. He may gain a little insight into the whole "doctrine vs. policy" debate. He thinks it is something we invented. In fact, it was a raging debate within the first presidency and the quorum of the twelve.

Enjoy.

Archaea · 04-23-2007, 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by RockyBalboa

Actually I would like to read it as well.

I apologize, but am going to assume you're talking about David O. McKay's biography? Did he write it or was someone else commissioned to?

Thanks.

It was written from public materials as well as notes from his long time personal secretary.

RockyBalboa · 04-23-2007, 09:52 PM

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It was written from public materials as well as notes from his long time personal secretary.

Thanks. At the risk of sounding like an idiot (which is okay, cause I kind of am)...what's the title of the book?

I'll purchase it online.

SoCalCoug · 04-23-2007, 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by RockyBalboa

Actually I would like to read it as well.

I apologize, but am going to assume you're talking about David O. McKay's biography? Did he write it or was someone else commissioned to?

Thanks.

I'm going to go out on a limb and say this sounds like a set-up to me.

All-American · 04-23-2007, 10:02 PM

David O. McKay and the Rise of Modern Mormonism.

Great book. Highly recommended; perhaps as the next book of the undetermined time period?

Jeff Lebowski · 04-23-2007, 10:03 PM

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David O. McKay and the Rise of Modern Mormonism.

Great book. Highly recommended; perhaps as the next book of the undetermined time period?

You are too late, AA. It was our first book of the undetermined time period.

All-American · 04-23-2007, 10:05 PM

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You are too late, AA. It was our first book of the undetermined time period.

Ah, yes. I got it mixed up with Rough Stone Rolling.

Which we already did as well, correct?

creekster · 04-23-2007, 10:06 PM

what is the next/current book?

04-23-2007, 09:36 PM	#1
SoCalCoug Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Orange County, California Posts: 3,059	I guess I'm a little late to the party but I'm finally reading the McKay biography. I'm into the chapter about blacks and the priesthood. It seems to me (assuming that the facts in the book are true) that when you state that the church hierarchy (on the whole, with a few exceptions) in the 1960's was racist, you are merely stating a fact (i.e., the sky is blue), rather than a criticism. Very fascinating. __________________ Get your stinking paws off me, you damned, dirty Yewt! "Now perhaps as I spanked myself screaming out "Kozlowski, say it like you mean it bitch!" might have been out of line, but such was the mood." - Goatnapper "If you want to fatten a pig up to make the pig MORE delicious, you can feed it almost anything. Seriously. The pig is like the car on Back to the Future. You put in garbage, and out comes something magical!" - Cali Coug

04-23-2007, 09:42 PM	#3
Jeff Lebowski Charon Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: In the heart of darkness (Provo) Posts: 9,564	It's a fascinating book. Somehow we need to get SU to read it. At least the chapter you mentioned. He may gain a little insight into the whole "doctrine vs. policy" debate. He thinks it is something we invented. In fact, it was a raging debate within the first presidency and the quorum of the twelve. Enjoy. __________________ "... the arc of the universe is long but it bends toward justice." Martin Luther King, Jr. Last edited by Jeff Lebowski; 04-23-2007 at 10:00 PM.

04-23-2007, 10:02 PM	#7
All-American Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 3,420	David O. McKay and the Rise of Modern Mormonism. Great book. Highly recommended; perhaps as the next book of the undetermined time period? __________________ εν αρχη ην ο λογος

04-23-2007, 10:06 PM	#10
creekster Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: the far corner of my mind Posts: 8,711	what is the next/current book? __________________ Sorry for th e tpyos.