People who can't have kids naturally

[MikeWaters]

ought not have kids. Speaking of gays. Right?

I wonder why the church doesn't come down on fertility drugs/techniques.

[All-American]

Originally Posted by MikeWaters

ought not have kids. Speaking of gays. Right?

I wonder why the church doesn't come down on fertility drugs/techniques.

I think you're right. In fact, we should terminate them. Immediately. Stop wasting our precious commodities on the infertile.

Good call, Mike.

[MikeWaters]

I mean, stop and think about it. Guy with 15 sperm in each shell, fires off a few , can't get her pregnant, gets in vitro.

Then that kid has a bunch of weak-gun genes, so much that he has zero sperm per shell. Woman he marries is upset. He's upset. Divorce.

Infertility, I think, is not exactly what the church wants when it comes to strengthening the family.

I mean, if the most important genes they have are screwed up, what about the other less important genes? Do you really want people like this adopting?

[il Padrino Ute]

A question for you Mike:

Why should a child (or children) be denied the privilege of having both a mother and a father, rather than two moms or two dads?

[MikeWaters]

Originally Posted by il Padrino Ute

A question for you Mike:

Why should a child (or children) be denied the privilege of having both a mother and a father, rather than two moms or two dads?

Why shouldn't children be allowed to have a mother and father who aren't genetically defective?

It's almost like the genetic/environmental defects are celebrated in our culture.

[il Padrino Ute]

Originally Posted by MikeWaters

Why shouldn't children be allowed to have a mother and father who aren't genetically defective?

It's almost like the genetic/environmental defects are celebrated in our culture.

Why don't you want to answer my question?

[Tex]

Originally Posted by MikeWaters

Why shouldn't children be allowed to have a mother and father who aren't genetically defective?

It's almost like the genetic/environmental defects are celebrated in our culture.

I think you come through the illegitimate line of the Kallikak Family.

[TripletDaddy]

Originally Posted by il Padrino Ute

A question for you Mike:

Why should a child (or children) be denied the privilege of having both a mother and a father, rather than two moms or two dads?

This is the huge strawman of this discussion.

Gays are not responsible for children who have the right to be born to a father or a mother.

Your question should not be addressed to supporters of gay marriage. It should be addressed to heterosexuals who have kids and then dump them. It is heterosexuals that are responsible for violating the rights of these unborn children.

Gays are only asking to scoop up some of the unwanteds and raise them with love. If heterosexuals would live up to their obligations, how would there even be children for gays to adopt? I guess some parents die in accidents, so that would account for some of the adoption pool.

Please explain to me how gays are preventing children from being born to loving mothers and fathers? They have nothing to do with that.

As I stated before, MAJOR strawman.

[il Padrino Ute]

Originally Posted by TripletDaddy

This is the huge strawman of this discussion.

Gays are not responsible for children who have the right to be born to a father or a mother.

Your question should not be addressed to supporters of gay marriage. It should be addressed to heterosexuals who have kids and then dump them. It is heterosexuals that are responsible for violating the rights of these unborn children.

Gays are only asking to scoop up some of the unwanteds and raise them with love. If heterosexuals would live up to their obligations, how would there even be children for gays to adopt? I guess some parents die in accidents, so that would account for some of the adoption pool.

Please explain to me how gays are preventing children from being born to loving mothers and fathers? They have nothing to do with that.

As I stated before, MAJOR strawman.

No, Mike commented that parents who can't have kids ought not to have kids. He then brought up gay marriage and alluded to the fact that infertile couples adopt, so gays should too.

No strawman on my part at all.