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Old 11-06-2008, 07:42 PM   #1
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Default Online petition for Schwarzenegger to re-open Prop 8

This is probably just one of many.

http://www.petitiononline.com/seg5130/petition.html

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I, myself, and many Californians I know are disgusted with the hatred that the passing of proposition 8 brought. I am asking you to read this over, THE FACTS, not the propaganda. Open your mind for a minute, and realize that this is terrible for future generations as well. How do you know that your future children or grandchildren won't come to you and tell you they are homosexual? Wouldn't you want your child to live a life in which the love they found was supported? Plain and simple, if you are an American, you should believe in preserving the constitution. Proposition 8's passing took away the 14th amendment for a group of people, and I would like to give it back.

Facts v. Fiction
Proposition 8 would eliminate fundamental rights for a group of Californians. It’s unfair and it’s wrong.

Fiction: Prop 8 doesn’t discriminate against gay people.
Fact: Prop 8 is simple: it eliminates the rights for same-sex couples to marry. Prop 8 would deny equal protections and write discrimination against one group of people—lesbian and gay people—into our state constitution.

Fiction: Teaching children about same-sex marriage will happen here unless we pass Prop 8.
Fact: Not one word in Prop 8 mentions education. And no child can be forced, against the will of their parents, to be taught anything about health and family issues at school. California law prohibits it.
California’s top educators including Superintendent of Schools Jack O’Connell and California Teachers all agree: Prop 8 has nothing to do with education.

Fiction: Churches could lose their tax-exemption status.
Fact: The court decision regarding marriage specifically says “no religion will be required to change its religious policies or practices with regard to same-sex couples, and no religious officiant will be required to solemnize a marriage in contravention of his or her religious beliefs.”

Fiction: A Massachusetts case about a parent’s objection to the school curriculum will happen here.
Fact: California gives parents an absolute right to remove their kids and opt-out of teaching on health and family instruction they don’t agree with. The opponents know that California law already covers this and Prop 8 won’t affect it, so they bring up an irrelevant case in Massachusetts.

Fiction: Four Activist Judges in San Francisco…
Fact: Prop 8 is about eliminating a fundamental right. Judges didn’t grant the right, the constitution guarantees the right. Proponents of Prop 8 use an outdated and stale argument that judges aren’t supposed to protect rights and freedoms. Prop 8 is about whether Californians are willing to amend the constitution for the sole purpose of eliminating a fundamental right for one group of citizens.

Fiction: If Prop 8 isn’t passed, people can be sued over personal beliefs.
Fact: California’s laws already prohibit discrimination against anyone based on race, religion, gender, or sexual orientation. This has nothing to do with marriage.

Fiction: Pepperdine University supports the Yes on 8 campaign.
Fact: The University has publicly disassociated itself from Professor Richard Peterson of Pepperdine University, who is featured in the ad, and has asked to not be identified in the Yes on 8 advertisements.

Fiction: Unless Prop 8 passes, California parents won’t have the right to object to what their children are taught in school.
Fact: California law clearly gives parents and guardians broad authority to remove their children from any health instruction if it conflicts with their religious beliefs or moral convictions.

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Old 11-06-2008, 08:46 PM   #2
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Have those online petitions ever amounted to anything? Serious question. I signed one to have Rad released on DVD which amounted to me having to buy a bootlegged copy off eBay that's in French and English.
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Old 11-06-2008, 08:51 PM   #3
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Have those online petitions ever amounted to anything? Serious question. I signed one to have Rad released on DVD which amounted to me having to buy a bootlegged copy off eBay that's in French and English.
Apples and Oranges.

Come back to us after Schwarzenegger starts an online petition to have Rad released on DVD, then we will talk.
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Old 11-06-2008, 08:55 PM   #4
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Apples and Oranges.

Come back to us after Schwarzenegger starts an online petition to have Rad released on DVD, then we will talk.
Did The Terminator start that petition? I thought people were petitioning him.

But thanks. I will now petition Ah-nold to have Rad released in DVD.
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Did The Terminator start that petition? I thought people were petitioning him.

But thanks. I will now petition Ah-nold to have Rad released in DVD.
Hey, you are right!

Well that changes everything.

Please send me the link to the Rad petition. I will sign it.

I am also upset that there is no DVD version of The Fish That Saved Pittsburgh.
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http://www.petitiononline.com/RAD/petition.html

Here you go!
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Done. Signature 20027.

Now sit back and watch the Hollywood bigwigs start sweating....DDD is involved!
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Done. Signature 20027.

Now sit back and watch the Hollywood bigwigs start sweating....DDD is involved!
Tell me about it. I feel American. Grassroots can be exciting!
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Tell me about it. I feel American. Grassroots can be exciting!
I did a quick search and discovered that The Fish That Saved Pittsburgh has been released on DVD, so with the exception of Prop 8, this has been a pretty nice week for me.
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