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Originally Posted by Detroitdad
What are your proposals for carrots and sticks in dealing with Iran if we disengage diplomatically? Why would they care if we are not talking? I don't see much leverage that we have to encourage them to do things we want. That was one of the main drawbacks in going to Iraq IMO because the Iranians know that we are preoccupied with Iraq and that we are to bogged down to quickly respond to anything that they do.
As for invasion. Ai yi yi! Our poor military is beat down and overwhelmed with deployments and Iraq has only a third of the population of Iran, and much easier terrain. We could take out the regime obviously, but holding the place together and restoring something better would be at least 3 times as hard as Iraq.
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If we treat it like a war and quit pussyfooting around, the US could defeat the insurgents very quickly. Ute4ever is correct that civilian deaths would be high, but we need to use air strikes and whatever means necessary to get things under control. Civilian casualties are an unfortunate thing, but in the end, more live will be saved when all the terrorists are dead.
As for Iran, if they really want to test the US, it would be very easy to flex our muscle and let them experience a nuclear winter. If they want to play hardball, we should show them how it's played. With Iran, the US needs to put to task the Cobra Kai method of striking first and striking hard. They want to develop a nuclear program and while I don't have proof of it, I have no doubt in my mind that they want to build nukes and use them on the US and any other western culture that doesn't think the way they do.
Some will think me a war monger, but my idea of peace is letting those that would harm me, my family, my friends and my country that if they want to push it, they will die.