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Originally Posted by Archaea
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It is intellectually repugnant to common sense, rejects the physical marital sacrament for which it is, and ignores the blessed differences communing betweeh the very delightfully different sexes.
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I know what you're saying, but OTOH, someone who *is* SSAttracted doesn't inherently understand what it's like to be attracted to women. So, is it okay for them to disparage straights as a result?
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...can you imagine how a man would ever become sensitive to another's needs if he didn't have a woman?
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You're speaking purely from a sexual POV? If so -- but I sort of don't understand why that's particularly relevant. From a purely humanist standpoint, who cares whether we understand how to satisfy each other's sexual needs? What does that matter in the grand scheme of the universe? |
Because learning it at the sexual level, teaches it another level and it transcends into a sacrament covenanting with God. Sex, in proper confines, is very spiritual and moving. Outside of that, it's just getting your rocks off. I'm not very sympathetic about a gay's "need" to get his rocks off. Do it on his time but don't claim any rights to it.
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Originally Posted by outlier
My real problem in watching the debate is that I don't understand why it's okay to "be mean" to people because they're different, and that seems to be what's happening (and it's not like that practice is the sole domain of the political/religious right). So long as a subset of humanity isn't getting in the way of my (or others') pursuit of life, liberty, and happiness, I don't feel like it's any of my business to criticize what it is they're doing. Guy-on-guy sex does not have any impact on me whatsoever. I own a gun which other people find repulsive, but so long as they don't have to be exposed to that, it's completely wrong of them to care.
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Being mean? Let's intellectually rejecting their bullshit arguments is being mean? If so, then I'm a mean man. If you mean, I reject a plebiscite whereby they garner costly rights. If a man were generally a nice guy, but was a cannibal, a la the guy in Germany, should I feel comfortable around him? I know the apologists will argue there is no comparison, but for me there is. i don't know what's on the pervert's mind and really don't want to know. If we can act civilly for economic benefit, so be it. Socially we have nothing in common. I don't club, I don't do drugs, I don't look at porn, I don't have anything in common with most gay men. So the opportunities to mean or nice is not there.
What do you mean by "being mean"? I do have interactions with lesbians, which has been most pleasant, as no sexual tension there, it was professional and we discuss matters of general interest. I render professional service, they pay and we move on. A great relationship. I sense a lesbian relations is less about sex and more about a relationship with somebody who emotionally anticipates another's needs. That part makes sense. I don't agree with it, but it makes a little bit of rational sense. You could have that without the sex.
Being mean, that sounds like something my eight year old would say. The world is a mean place, and making nice is no longer vogue.