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Originally Posted by aaronshaf
Looking at the Greek just makes things worse: It shows how Smith got it absolutely wrong, and how he turned the passage upside down.
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Originally Posted by MikeWaters
Yes, you have lit upon the crux of Mormonism, which is, that the true gospel has been restored to the earth by the prophet Joseph Smith. And that you may gain faith and knowledge of this through the power of the Holy Spirit.
That's why your arguments have no impact. Because they don't address the fundamental process by which Mormons believe one gains knowledge.
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So, I'm beginning to see a problem here, which may be Mike's point.
Now if both parties rely on presuppositionalism, and the two parties appeal to separate authorities in the presuppositionalist approach...well then I don't see how this discussion will go anywhere.
Please correct me if I'm missing something, and forgive me if I offend. I am, after all, speaking as an outsider and somewhat less than an expert.