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Originally Posted by Jeff Lebowski
Once again, it is a hollow victory. This fact that they even feel the need to issue a statement like this illustrates that the battle was "won" but at tremendous cost. The church will be paying for this for a long time, IMO.
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Oh stop, already. It's a statement that recognizes it's a highly emotional issue, and it was pretty stand-up of them to phrase it that way (not that I would expect anything else).
To listen to you, you'd think the church should roll over anytime it has a position that is unpopular. With that attitude, we never would've made it out of the year 1831.
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Originally Posted by OrangeUte
oh come on. let's not get into word-play and semantics. the church was every bit as much a part of the movement as its individual members. it's like telling me i can't pierce the corporate veil even though it is just a ruse. the church condones same sex marriage because it is intolerant and bigotted on that issue. the church is intolerant toward any other opinion than its own and the message that ultimately went out (with members money, but with the church's influence deeply felt) was that or fear of something different and misunderstood, and unfortunately the prejudice being expressed was passive/aggressive and the church would never come straight out and say what it wanted to... that gay people creep us out and disgust us but we don't want to try to understand them or this issue - it's black and white!
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Those who hear that message are just wallowing in their own anger. They have no interest in understanding the church's position either.
I grow weary of hearing the lame apologetics for the militaristic wing of the gay agenda.