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Originally Posted by JohnnyLingo
So every single post by those you listed contains exactly what you are talking about.
Good to know.
Look, if you don't want to take three seconds to find an example and help me understand what you're talking about, I am forced to assume you're blowing smoke.
Citations of authority have nothing to do with how they are presented and everything with who is presenting them.
If you dislike the poster, the citation is handled poorly. Otherwise, it's brilliantly done.
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Absolutely incorrect. If you wish to see how not to use authority, look at Tex or Indy. In their usage, they will cite some partial statement by a Church authority, and then pause to imply anybody who seeks a broader understanding of the context of the statement or who can think of a contrary example is nothing but an apostate.
Pelagius on the other hand, if you read any of his lesson notes, uses authority not to force just one conclusion but to give pause for consideration. Note the example when Pelagius cited the D. Michael Quinn article on women already having the priesthood. Quinn is probably a bad example, but he carefully cited a noted historian, not even claiming he agreed with the paper for us to consider an alternative view.
None of the triad cites for the purposes of instilling debate, but rather the squelch debate under the authority card that since the Triad cited "god's authority" all other authority is apostate. When in fact, there is diverse opinion within the Quorum of Twelve itself.