[Archaea]

As I analyze Jay's and Rocky's arguments, they are not the same.

Rocky views everything Seattle states as an attack against the Church he left. His view of Seattle is so narrow that he is unwilling to examine each argument for its own sake. Certainly, one can see a slant depending upon the poster, that is a fair way of reading boards. However, one misses the richness of Seattle's or anybody else's thought by doing that.

Santos views Seattle as a jerk and a lawyer, not certain which he detests more. It appears lawyers more, but in past discussions it is clear, because he refuses to understand how lawyers operate and how we can separate ourselves from our personal morality when addressing the morality of our clients, that he finds the mere fact of advocacy for a person he considers immoral, an immoral act. Thus, Seattle suffers from the double whammy of advocating, an immoral act in and of itself, a non Church position, another immoral act.

It seems that neither wish or could befriend somebody who isn't friendly toward or respectful of the Church. There are probably many people who share that view. There, it's clear as mud to this befuddled soul.