[Cali Coug]

Originally Posted by il Padrino Ute

You really are an asshole, aren't you?

Obama is a socialist. You smugly tell me that I don't know what socialism is, but I think it's because you're a socialist yourself and you can't admit it.

I tell you that you don't know what socialism is because you don't.

GM is now state owned.

Are you under the impression that the entire US economy is now socialistic because the US owns a controlling share of GM (which they are trying to unload, just as they have already unloaded large portions of ownership of several banks, such as US Bank)? Once again, proof you don't know what socialism means.

Obamacare is socialized medicine. Did you miss the part that privatized insurance will become illegal or did you just ignore it? It's right there in the bill. Scroll down to Sec. 102 and read it for yourself under Limitation on New Enrollment:

http://www.opencongress.org/bill/111-h3200/text

More proof you don't know what socialism means, and proof you don't know what the bill says (hint: it doesn't say private insurance is illegal- you actually can read Sec. 102 instead of just recommending other people read it, and you can also note that the bill hasn't been passed and no particular provision of that bill has been endorsed by Obama).

And just how is he going to pay for it without skyrocketing tax increases for every citizen? Even you have to admit that he's lying about only taxing the wealthy to pay for socialized medicine. Unless, of course, you don't mind lying to yourself.

Well, according to the CBO, he very well can pay for it through a tax on the top 1% (which is what he said he would do all along). He could also pay for it by taxing health care benefits, which is what he said he wouldn't do all along. I prefer the latter to the former, but both produce revenue neutrality for the bill.

That's just a start. Open your eyes and stop being so damned condescending when you respond to my posts. Nobody but you is impressed by your snide remarks.

I hope that is also the end, because it was a miserable start.