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Originally Posted by splitbamboo
I'm not sure where you're going with this, but I'll add something.
Yesterday my wife and children went to the funeral of the brother of my sister-in-law (yeah, she bailed me out again).
Anyway, the Baptist minister preaches salvation by grace. The dead guy professed a belief in Christ once upon a time and now he's saved, taking harp lessons.
To take this further, adding insult to injury, the minister goes on about the spirituality of the deceased and family. We're not sure where the minister even came from. We're sure the family hasn't stepped into Church in years. My brother left the Church (any church) behind when he left home after high school. That was 32 years ago.
My wife (as an overworked and underpaid wife, mother of six, and RS president), is now thinking it's time to make a switch (so to speak). She says, "what's with this works stuff if we can get in with just a professed belief?" She wants to know where this works stuff comes from. I quote the typical James stuff and she asks why the two thoughts (works vs. grace) She says this is stupid. And why'd we get saddled with the works option?
I didn't have any good answers but I'd love to give away my four year old primary class (the hardest calling I've ever had and that's with just four students and a team teacher). My guess is that it's not going to happen anytime soon...
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Maybe it's my LDS upbringing, but the born again philosophy on salvation makes zero sense to me. I don't see how a just God sends some very few lucky souls to heaven who happen to know they're supposed to say a specific prayer or only have a passive belief in the nicene creed version of God (and no other version), while anyone else who either doesn't know what the formula is or believes in another version of God, like the LDS, automatically goes to hell, no questions asked and no matter what they did in life.