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Originally Posted by Judge Smails
By the way, I can't believe there are still some. Talk about your smoking gun.
You guys seem to point to Illinois as evidence that Hawaii belonged in the BCS. To be fair, with the 2-team per conference limit you're scraping the barrel to come up with 10 great teams to play the 5 bowl games - if Hawaii wasn't in, you'd probably have been looking at Boston College or Arizona St. Clearly those teams were more deserving than Hawaii though.
I'm curious though, what you believe Hawaii would have accomplished with this schedule:
Missouri
W Illinois
@ Syracuse
@ Indiana
Penn St
Wisconsin
@ Iowa
Michigan
Ball St
@ Minnesota
@ Ohio St
Northwestern
Here's my guess - 5 "sure" wins - W Illinois, Syracuse, Ball St, Minnesota, Northwestern. 5 "sure" losses - Missouri, Penn St, Wisconsin, Michigan, Ohio St. 2 toss ups - Iowa, Indiana.
I'm saying Hawaii's ceiling against that schedule is to win the 2 toss ups, and pull a shocker against one of the "sure losses". That's 8-4, a game worse than Illinois finished. (And let's not forget Illinois beat #1 Ohio St). More likely Hawaii would finish 7-5 or 6-6 and be headed to the Champs Sports Bowl.
Seriously, Hawaii played no one this year, squeaked out wins against really awful teams, then got absolutely embarrassed by Georgia, and you people still believe they belonged? I don't get it.
By just admitting Hawaii in a BCS game was a joke it doesn't mean you're suggesting BYU or Utah or even a proven good Hawaii team shouldn't get into the BCS in the future. Hawaii just was NOT a top 25 football team any way you slice it, let alone a legitimate BCS team.
You were fooled, but so were a lot of people. Embrace it and learn from it.
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Hawaii's schedule this year was no weaker than BYU's schedule in '84.
I have no problem with Hawaii getting a BCS game, but I do think they got hosed. Just like when BYU was awarded the title in '84 for being the only undefeated team in the country, Hawaii should have at least had a shot at the title.
Why do I think this? Because the BCS is corrupt and unfair to any team that isn't a member of a BCS conference. It's all crap. So any time one of the so-called little guys can get in, it's a good thing.