That is good to know, I really like the Lynskey's. Where do I look for the discounts you speak of? The list price is right up there with Litespeed. For looks I love this one
http://www.litespeed.com/bikes/2008/icon.aspx and this one
http://www.sevencycles.com/popup.htm.../pop.jpg&Axiom SG but I have no idea what the cost is on the icon(But looking at last years comps it will be 4k-5k) and the seven is like astronomically priced. But the Lynskey's seem to be just as much for a comp . How much discount should I be looking for and I see litespeed is carried in some shops but Lynskey seems custom order is this correct?