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Forum: Religion 10-11-2016, 11:15 PM
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Posted By ute4ever
According to Alex Dushku, the church's lead...

According to Alex Dushku, the church's lead counsel, this is a larger issue than what has been made out in the media so far. Not only BYU, but all faith-based schools who require an honor code are...
Forum: Religion 10-11-2016, 11:10 PM
Replies: 14
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Posted By ute4ever
Elder Gong is in my ward. I've sat next to him a...

Elder Gong is in my ward. I've sat next to him a couple of times in our High Priest Group. He is a very approachable and down to earth man. I've not noticed anyone ask him about the leak, but why...
Forum: Religion 11-12-2015, 12:07 AM
Replies: 125
Views: 18,316
Posted By ute4ever
Post Script. You may be surprised to learn...

Post Script.

You may be surprised to learn that seven years ago, while living in California, I voted no on Prop 8. At the time, I had many of the same feelings and emotions that you have been...
Forum: Religion 11-11-2015, 10:34 PM
Replies: 125
Views: 18,316
Posted By ute4ever
Honestly, you use D&C 8-9 as justification for...

Honestly, you use D&C 8-9 as justification for evil speaking of The Lord's anointed? The two sections are about receiving personal revelation and unlocking the mysteries of the kingdom, as well as...
Forum: Religion 11-11-2015, 09:37 PM
Replies: 125
Views: 18,316
Posted By ute4ever
See post 78. If don't like the new policy and...

See post 78. If don't like the new policy and want to better understand the reasoning, there's a better way to go about it than murmuring and throwing the brethren under the bus.
Forum: Religion 11-11-2015, 08:25 PM
Replies: 125
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Posted By ute4ever
Yesterday, weren't you the one who referenced the...

Yesterday, weren't you the one who referenced the gifts of the Spirit? Conversion doesn't come press conferences or secret handbooks. The prophets have spoken on this issue plenty during general...
Forum: Religion 11-11-2015, 07:48 PM
Replies: 125
Views: 18,316
Posted By ute4ever
He already does. You know why prophets speak in...

He already does. You know why prophets speak in parables, right? Start with his Sep 2014 Ensign First Presidency message.
Forum: Religion 11-11-2015, 07:46 PM
Replies: 125
Views: 18,316
Posted By ute4ever
There is happiness, and then there is joy, and...

There is happiness, and then there is joy, and then there is fullness of joy. Those who insist that they are happy with their choices, and the direction of The Lord's servants does not, and they...
Forum: Religion 11-11-2015, 07:31 PM
Replies: 125
Views: 18,316
Posted By ute4ever
Honestly, when I realize that the reader is also...

Honestly, when I realize that the reader is also put off by members of the First Presidency, the Quorum of the Apostles, and past leaders of the church, I don't feel insulted by the remark. Either...
Forum: Religion 11-11-2015, 04:29 PM
Replies: 125
Views: 18,316
Posted By ute4ever
To clarify my position for anyone who may be...

To clarify my position for anyone who may be confused. I agree with all of the following:

J. Reuben Clark, Jr.:
"Unless we enjoy the Spirit of God we cannot understand the things of God; in fact,...
Forum: Religion 11-11-2015, 03:11 PM
Replies: 125
Views: 18,316
Posted By ute4ever
I suppose you may read anything into my...

I suppose you may read anything into my statements that you please, and alter what you feel they mean, as long as it makes you feel better about your position. And let's revisit that position: on...
Forum: Religion 11-10-2015, 10:44 PM
Replies: 125
Views: 18,316
Posted By ute4ever
Meanwhile, if you meant your question in the...

Meanwhile, if you meant your question in the context of it being wrong for the apostles to even surmise whether this man's blindness (not all mens blindnesses) was even an eternal principle, I offer...
Forum: Religion 11-10-2015, 10:34 PM
Replies: 125
Views: 18,316
Posted By ute4ever
From Elder Oaks: Thank goodness Elder...

From Elder Oaks:



Thank goodness Elder Maxwell didn't bitterly kick against the pricks.
Forum: Religion 11-10-2015, 10:28 PM
Replies: 125
Views: 18,316
Posted By ute4ever
32 And now, my son, remember the words which I...

32 And now, my son, remember the words which I have spoken unto you; trust not those secret plans unto this people, but teach them an everlasting hatred against sin and iniquity.

I take it you've...
Forum: Religion 11-10-2015, 08:26 PM
Replies: 125
Views: 18,316
Posted By ute4ever
Blue K those are all good points and I don't...

Blue K those are all good points and I don't disagree with them. Obviously much good came from the loosened standard, otherwise The Lord would not have directed the brethren, and then the mission...
Forum: Religion 11-10-2015, 05:33 PM
Replies: 125
Views: 18,316
Posted By ute4ever
Where were all the activists, the protest signs,...

Where were all the activists, the protest signs, the condemnation- when the church had this policy on the books for kids that are living with heterosexual unmarried parents? Where was the outcry for...
Forum: Religion 11-10-2015, 05:32 AM
Replies: 125
Views: 18,316
Posted By ute4ever
Separating the wheat from the chaff? Discovering...

Separating the wheat from the chaff? Discovering which virgins have oil in their lamps? The wedding feast?
Forum: Religion 11-10-2015, 03:29 AM
Replies: 125
Views: 18,316
Posted By ute4ever
I think you misunderstood the context. Quantity...

I think you misunderstood the context. Quantity vs. Quality. Rush through the discussions, have them attend church once, and they're in. And when they're inactive a month later? Too busy rushing...
Forum: Religion 11-10-2015, 01:56 AM
Replies: 125
Views: 18,316
Posted By ute4ever
I must say I'm surprised by the whole lot of you....

I must say I'm surprised by the whole lot of you. At first I thought you were trolling, but now it's apparent that you truly never knew the gospel's stance on homosexuality.

During all these...
Forum: Football 11-09-2015, 09:52 PM
Replies: 11
Views: 2,395
Posted By ute4ever
Maybe it hasn't made wind in your neck of the...

Maybe it hasn't made wind in your neck of the woods yet, but there are petitions for the NCAA to ban BYU athletics, over the gay issue.

In the meantime, perhaps others will adopt a similar...
Forum: Religion 11-09-2015, 09:46 PM
Replies: 125
Views: 18,316
Posted By ute4ever
It was Orson Hyde who prophesied that a real test...

It was Orson Hyde who prophesied that a real test would come in the last days and half of church members would fall away, and Presidents Young, Kimball, Benson and Hinckley quoted it. I suppose this...
Forum: Religion 11-09-2015, 03:48 AM
Replies: 125
Views: 18,316
Posted By ute4ever
I imagine that stat was a key factor in the...

I imagine that stat was a key factor in the decision process. Obviously The Lord views apostate households as worse than any other degree of "error" including homes of agnostics, those with...
Forum: Religion 11-09-2015, 02:42 AM
Replies: 125
Views: 18,316
Posted By ute4ever
Waters, you're correct. He blessed every child...

Waters, you're correct. He blessed every child and still does. Is there anybody in this world, old or young, white or black, gay or straight, who may not receive a priesthood blessing at any hour of...
Forum: Religion 11-08-2015, 11:57 PM
Replies: 125
Views: 18,316
Posted By ute4ever
Archaea, that's not fair. Muslims are unpopular...

Archaea, that's not fair. Muslims are unpopular for different reasons. Nazi Germany was also unpopular. So are BYU admissions standards.

If your argument is that the church needs to lower its...
Forum: Religion 11-07-2015, 08:18 PM
Replies: 125
Views: 18,316
Posted By ute4ever
Christ said to let your light so shine before the...

Christ said to let your light so shine before the world and not hide it under a bushel. He didn't say to put out a dim, flickering light, so the children of Babylon will feel nice and cozy.
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