An example of impressive Christian charitable effort
 

http://www.dallaslife.org/abt_history.htm

You will notice the list of Reverends and their associated churches who made this happen.

Is their anything more Christian than taking in the desperately poor, those without food, shelter, jobs, those struggling with substance abuse, and other problems, and helping them get on their feet?

Largest shelter in North Texas.

Nobody's going to oppose that. But what do these churches do in terms of aiding the Red Cross, what contributions do they send internationally? How do they help their own members?

I appreciate that kind of charity. I don't know if LDS church can match or not. You seem bent on the idea that we don't. I'd bet the church in Salt Lake easily pays for 105 beds a night. But I could be wrong.

Of course, I'm not familiar with those things.

I'm not even familiar with it among Mormons. I have no idea how much money my ward has donated to anything.

Here's an account of our stake's major charitable effort:

http://209.85.165.104/search?q=cache...ient=firefox-a

Wasn't Adam up in arms about homeless dying on the streets in Utah County in the cold, and there not being any public support for a homeless shelter.

Zion, indeed.

This is the church that supports the homeless shelter:

http://www.firstdallas.org/

Here is their mission to help an orphanage in Peru.
http://peru2007.wordpress.com/

Here is what they do in terms of charity in addition:

http://www.firstdallas.org/Missions/

I don't know how big the congregation is. Obviously much larger than a ward.

But I wonder if you compared the charitable efforts of a number of wards equal to the membership of this church, how they would compare against this church.

I wonder.

My ward made lunches for the Utah County Food bank. They give out 70 a day during the winter. I really don't know about it all, but I know bishops pay for temporary housing all the time. You can accomplish the same objective of a homeless shelter through other means. I'm not really defending that aggressively. I don't know the details. But I don't think you have any data to support your claim that LDS is not doing this stuff. Other than your stake public affairs lady's one sound byte.

Paying for temporary housing is not nearly the same thing, in terms of effort and service. The average member probably never even knows it happened, much less is involved in giving that service.

How does one access this service? We talk about the hoops that people have to jump through to get help. Seems like finding a Mormon bishop is a pretty dang big hoop to jump through. In other words, accessibility is terrible in such a system. And also inefficient.

It is painless however, in that it involves no longterm commitment, and no use of members time.

I guess you would have a good argument if the Provo police weren't collecting dead frozen bodies off the streets (someone correct me if I'm wrong).

The only thing I can think of more Christian than that is preaching hellfire to those damned heretics, the Mormons.

It's always fun to compare and compete to see which churches provide the best assistance to the needy. Very Christlike, indeed.