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Cali Coug 01-04-2008 03:24 AM

Obama looking to storm through to the White House!!!!!
 
I haven't been this excited about a political victory in my lifetime. Obama beat the odds and knocked off a tough Clinton campaign in Iowa, of all places.

I think there are lots of messages to take from tonight. First, independents are leaning HEAVILY Democratic right now. That may have shifted with an Obama loss tonight towards McCain, but Obama has HUGE momentum now, and independents are likely to continue flocking to his campaign, propelling him to wins in New Hampshire and South Carolina.

Second, people in America really want change. That is bad news for Clinton, who superficially appears to be more of the same, due to her connection to Bill. This could be a tidal wave election, where Obama has a real chance to overwhelmingly be elected as the next president. If a black man can win in Iowa, one of the whitest of all states with a solid evangelical base, from a party attracting more than twice the turnout in a caucus than the Republican party, where can't he win? For the first time in the history of this great nation, the ultimate glass ceiling may be about to be shattered for African-Americans. And, as the excitement about that fact builds, African-Americans may be involved in voting in unprecedented numbers.

This is a historic day, and a thrilling one.

woot 01-04-2008 03:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Cali Coug (Post 169646)
I haven't been this excited about a political victory in my lifetime. Obama beat the odds and knocked off a tough Clinton campaign in Iowa, of all places.

I think there are lots of messages to take from tonight. First, independents are leaning HEAVILY Democratic right now. That may have shifted with an Obama loss tonight towards McCain, but Obama has HUGE momentum now, and independents are likely to continue flocking to his campaign, propelling him to wins in New Hampshire and South Carolina.

Second, people in America really want change. That is bad news for Clinton, who superficially appears to be more of the same, due to her connection to Bill. This could be a tidal wave election, where Obama has a real chance to overwhelmingly be elected as the next president. If a black man can win in Iowa, one of the whitest of all states with a solid evangelical base, from a party attracting more than twice the turnout in a caucus than the Republican party, where can't he win? For the first time in the history of this great nation, the ultimate glass ceiling may be about to be shattered for African-Americans. And, as the excitement about that fact builds, African-Americans may be involved in voting in unprecedented numbers.

This is a historic day, and a thrilling one.

While I'm not quite as enthused about Obama as you are, he is my favorite candidate and having a black guy get the most votes of anyone from either party in such a white state tells me that this country is making progress. It really does seem like he is the only choice for those who want change, with the possible exception of Edwards, and I have to think that a very large percentage of this country wants change.

il Padrino Ute 01-04-2008 03:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Cali Coug (Post 169646)
I haven't been this excited about a political victory in my lifetime. Obama beat the odds and knocked off a tough Clinton campaign in Iowa, of all places.

I think there are lots of messages to take from tonight. First, independents are leaning HEAVILY Democratic right now. That may have shifted with an Obama loss tonight towards McCain, but Obama has HUGE momentum now, and independents are likely to continue flocking to his campaign, propelling him to wins in New Hampshire and South Carolina.

Second, people in America really want change. That is bad news for Clinton, who superficially appears to be more of the same, due to her connection to Bill. This could be a tidal wave election, where Obama has a real chance to overwhelmingly be elected as the next president. If a black man can win in Iowa, one of the whitest of all states with a solid evangelical base, from a party attracting more than twice the turnout in a caucus than the Republican party, where can't he win? For the first time in the history of this great nation, the ultimate glass ceiling may be about to be shattered for African-Americans. And, as the excitement about that fact builds, African-Americans may be involved in voting in unprecedented numbers.

This is a historic day, and a thrilling one.

Yawn.

Too much socialism is not a change for the good.

Cali Coug 01-04-2008 03:30 AM

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Originally Posted by il Padrino Ute (Post 169656)
Yawn.

Too much socialism is not a change for the good.

If you think Obama is a socialist, you don't understand Obama, or you don't know what socialism means.

BYU71 01-04-2008 03:32 AM

Awesome, he is going to get rid of lobbyists, unite Americans, provide health care for all , middle class tax cuts, stop sending jobs abroad, bring the troops home, eliminate the terrorists and make all Americans feel good about Americans.

The only problem is with a democratic congress he will turn us in France. What good will it do to feel good about being an American when we will be French.

il Padrino Ute 01-04-2008 03:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Cali Coug (Post 169658)
If you think Obama is a socialist, you don't understand Obama, or you don't know what socialism means.

I never said he was a socialist. I said that he has too many ideas that are based on socialism.

National health care is a socialist idea. That is too much for me.

Cali Coug 01-04-2008 03:33 AM

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Originally Posted by il Padrino Ute (Post 169663)
I never said he was a socialist. I said that he has too many ideas that are based on socialism.

National health care is a socialist idea. That is too much for me.

No kidding. Helping people sucks.

woot 01-04-2008 03:34 AM

The United States is an experiment in nearly unbridled capitalism. It's hilarious to me that some are so insistent on labeling people socialists when they are clearly nothing of the sort. Unless you get out the garden hose when your house catches fire and send your kids to private schools, you have no business calling any major candidate a socialist.

myboynoah 01-04-2008 03:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Cali Coug (Post 169658)
If you think Obama is a socialist, you don't understand Obama, or you don't know what socialism means.

I'm happy you're happy.

But I think Obama would be a disaster as a president.

As a Repub, I'm happy Edwards will be out of the race very soon.

Dems love threading the needle with their candidates. Very little room for error with that strategy. Just ask Gore and Kerry.

woot 01-04-2008 03:36 AM

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Originally Posted by BYU71 (Post 169661)
Awesome, he is going to get rid of lobbyists, unite Americans, provide health care for all , middle class tax cuts, stop sending jobs abroad, bring the troops home, eliminate the terrorists and make all Americans feel good about Americans.

The only problem is with a democratic congress he will turn us in France. What good will it do to feel good about being an American when we will be French.

While you're obviously exaggerating, I think you're ignoring the many things France does well, and the many things that Bush has done to make our country a shadow of its former self.


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