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SeattleUte 03-06-2007 07:05 PM

Libby's conviction an indication of how much Bush and his war are hated
 
Check out the jury's profile on the NY Times. These are smart, accomplished people. A PhD ecoomist/investment banker, retired Washington Post reporter, a web designer for the General Services Administration, a retired math teacher. All are on this level. Okay, there is one lawyer. But still, an unusually educated and accomplished group.

I see this in part as a ringing condemnation of Bush and his war. I'm sure Libby did try to obstruct justice to cover up for his boss Cheney, but jurors always are motivated by the big picture, themes, overarching equities.

Frank Ryan 03-06-2007 08:05 PM

of course if you
 
go read cougarboard the jury is incredibly dumb.

i think this conviction definately points to something more sinister

Jeff Lebowski 03-06-2007 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Mastershake (Post 64356)
go read cougarboard the jury is incredibly dumb.

Including this guy who thinks the CB crowd were better-informed than the jury:

http://www.cougarboard.com/noframes/...tml?id=2529881

Frank Ryan 03-06-2007 08:23 PM

yeah, i saw that
 
that is an exceptionally strange position to take.

where do these people come from?

Venkman 03-06-2007 08:30 PM

What crime did Bush/Cheney/Rove et. all commit that Libby was covering up for?

YOhio 03-06-2007 08:32 PM

Let me get this straight.

Cougarboard is saying that this is a witchhunt and the jury had no regard for the facts of the case.

SU is saying that the jury was motivated to find Libby guilty because they disapprove of Bush and the war.

It looks like two different ways of phrasing the same idea.

Frank Ryan 03-06-2007 08:33 PM

if they were guiltless
 
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Originally Posted by Venkman (Post 64360)
What crime did Bush/Cheney/Rove et. all commit that Libby was covering up for?


why was scooter lying?

SeattleUte 03-06-2007 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Venkman (Post 64360)
What crime did Bush/Cheney/Rove et. all commit that Libby was covering up for?

Doesn't have to be to cover up a crime. Lying under oath is a crime nonetheless. He was lying to protect his boss Cheney from at least political embarrassment. He may not have been thinking crime. So what?

SeattleUte 03-06-2007 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by YOhio (Post 64361)
Let me get this straight.

Cougarboard is saying that this is a witchhunt and the jury had no regard for the facts of the case.

SU is saying that the jury was motivated to find Libby guilty because they disapprove of Bush and the war.

It looks like two different ways of phrasing the same idea.

Honest, intelligent and balanced juries aren't slaves to the facts or the jury instructions. But they "get it right" a lot more often than judges do. They do equity and justice in a common sense kind of way that is a product of the heart and the gut blended with the intellect. They believe sincerely in unversal justice and aim sincerely for that. A good trial lawyer always helps them to see the larger stakes.

Jeff Lebowski 03-06-2007 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Mastershake (Post 64359)
that is an exceptionally strange position to take.

where do these people come from?

Well, this is the same guy that argued yesterday that Clarence Thomas is the best judge on the supreme court. So take it for what it's worth.


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