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JohnnyLingo 01-23-2006 05:35 PM

Terri Schiavo
 
's widower remarries.

cnn.com link

Robin 01-23-2006 06:17 PM

Re: Terri Schiavo
 
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Originally Posted by JohnnyLingo
's widower remarries.

cnn.com link

Why should that be news?

creekster 01-23-2006 06:22 PM

Given the subheading of the category, I would think the subversive nature of this 'news' fits rather well with our self-congratulatory self-image around here.

Tex 11-23-2009 06:22 PM

Man trapped in 23-year 'coma' reveals horror of being unable to tell doctors he was conscious.

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A car crash victim has spoken of the horror he endured for 23 years after he was misdiagnosed as being in a coma when he was conscious the whole time.

Rom Houben, trapped in his paralysed body after a car crash, described his real-life nightmare as he screamed to doctors that he could hear them - but could make no sound.

'I screamed, but there was nothing to hear,' said Mr Houben, now 46, who doctors thought was in a persistent vegatative state.

'I dreamed myself away,' he added, tapping his tale out with the aid of a computer.

MikeWaters 11-23-2009 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Tex (Post 308357)
Man trapped in 23-year 'coma' reveals horror of being unable to tell doctors he was conscious.

Should we do a $2000 test on every person in a coma to rule this out?

Did you watch 60min last night? It was about the absurdity of fighting for every last day of life, even though a person is unconscious, on lifesupport, in pain, and has no meaningful chance of recovery.

I worked with an infectious disease specialist rounding in the hospital among these unconscious very ill patients, who had been in the hospital for weeks or months, for whom death was a certainty. It could be predicted, almost on schedule, what infections and in what order they would arrive. Until finally the patient died. This doctor called it "watering the plants." Because there is a certain absurdity to it.

We can't have it all. We don't have the resources for it.

Tex 11-23-2009 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeWaters (Post 308360)
Should we do a $2000 test on every person in a coma to rule this out?

Did you watch 60min last night? It was about the absurdity of fighting for every last day of life, even though a person is unconscious, on lifesupport, in pain, and has no meaningful chance of recovery.

I worked with an infectious disease specialist rounding in the hospital among these unconscious very ill patients, who had been in the hospital for weeks or months, for whom death was a certainty. It could be predicted, almost on schedule, what infections and in what order they would arrive. Until finally the patient died. This doctor called it "watering the plants." Because there is a certain absurdity to it.

We can't have it all. We don't have the resources for it.

How much is worth it to you?

Archaea 11-23-2009 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Tex (Post 308362)
How much is worth it to you?

Well if my insurance wants to pay for it, then that's great, or if my estate can and does, but if you expect the taxpayers to do it, given the odds against such an event, then no.

so if the benefit is 1 in 100,000 cases might be found, and you are asking the government to spend $200,000,000.00 to save that one life, it doesn't make a whole lot of sense.

MikeWaters 11-23-2009 07:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tex (Post 308362)
How much is worth it to you?

Let's say that 1 in 50,000 comas has this guys situation.

And let's say the test costs $2000 and has the PERFECT ability (100% chance) to discover this disorder (almost no test has this ability).

The cost to find just one case would be $100,000,000. For Palin Tex-ites, this is a good use of our resources.

The cost to "save" 10 lives would be $1 billion.

Oh yeah, in the meantime, we have millions of children dying of measles, infectious diarrhea, malaria and other illnesses every year.

BUT LIFE IS SACRED, WE MUST NOT LET TERRI SCHIAVO DIE!!!!!!!

GOP has become the party of really, really dumb people.

Tex 11-23-2009 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeWaters (Post 308365)
Let's say that 1 in 50,000 comas has this guys situation.

You didn't answer my question. I asked how much would be worth it to you.

Anyone can just make up numbers.

MikeWaters 11-23-2009 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Tex (Post 308366)
You didn't answer my question. I asked how much would be worth it to you.

Anyone can just make up numbers.

could you ask a more vague question please?


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