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Hazzard 10-21-2008 06:30 PM

Have any of you read this?
 
"Revisiting Thomas F. O’Dea’s The Mormons"

http://www.uofupress.com/store/product362.html

I haven't read O'Dea's original work, so I'll pass on this one until I can get to the original. I'm sure a few of you have read O'Dea's original work -- what did you think? And if you've had a chance to read Revisiting, what did you think of it? With contributors like Givens and Mauss, I assume it's an interesting read.

PaloAltoCougar 10-22-2008 12:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Hazzard (Post 282500)
"Revisiting Thomas F. O’Dea’s The Mormons"

http://www.uofupress.com/store/product362.html

I haven't read O'Dea's original work, so I'll pass on this one until I can get to the original. I'm sure a few of you have read O'Dea's original work -- what did you think? And if you've had a chance to read Revisiting, what did you think of it? With contributors like Givens and Mauss, I assume it's an interesting read.

Until now, I was unaware of it, but I'll likely get it. I have a particular interest in this because, in 1975, I was about to give the graduate address for my college convocation (I was eventually denied this opportunity, perhaps because the overseers took offense at the "[Pause, turn and moon Prof. Sorenson, continue]" portion of my draft address. But my talk, the text of which is now lost to the world, focused on a portion of O'Dea's work which noted the Church's huge commitment to education and queried whether the Church would be able to withstand the challenges that come from a well-educated and questioning flock.

Since O'Dea wrote this around the time of SeattleUte's birth, I believe he was prophetic in noting the serious threat SU would pose to our well-being. My talk was meant to reassure the masses that we were up to the challenge. The jury's still out, but I think we are.

Thanks for the link.

Hazzard 10-22-2008 01:36 AM

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Originally Posted by PaloAltoCougar (Post 282708)
Until now, I was unaware of it, but I'll likely get it. I have a particular interest in this because, in 1975, I was about to give the graduate address for my college convocation (I was eventually denied this opportunity, perhaps because the overseers took offense at the "[Pause, turn and moon Prof. Sorenson, continue]" portion of my draft address. But my talk, the text of which is now lost to the world, focused on a portion of O'Dea's work which noted the Church's huge commitment to education and queried whether the Church would be able to withstand the challenges that come from a well-educated and questioning flock.

Since O'Dea wrote this around the time of SeattleUte's birth, I believe he was prophetic in noting the serious threat SU would pose to our well-being. My talk was meant to reassure the masses that we were up to the challenge. The jury's still out, but I think we are.

Thanks for the link.

In a quick Internet search today, I came across something about the portion of O'Dea's work to which you refer. Very interesting idea that I would love to explore. Perhaps CB is evidence that O'Dea's fears (hopes?) were unfounded and CG is evidence they are coming to pass? Just remember: for every SU out there we've got 25 NorCal Cats on the loose.

These thoughts arose in the context of one of my current reads, Elder Ballard's book on counseling with our councils, in which he quotes the Encyclopedia of Mormonism, which refers to O'Dea's comment about the "democracy of participation" in our church's use of councils at all levels of administration. Of course, the Encyclopedia leaves out the next phrase O'Dea used: "oligarchy of decision making and command."

Solon 10-22-2008 01:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Hazzard (Post 282500)
"Revisiting Thomas F. O’Dea’s The Mormons"

http://www.uofupress.com/store/product362.html

I haven't read O'Dea's original work, so I'll pass on this one until I can get to the original. I'm sure a few of you have read O'Dea's original work -- what did you think? And if you've had a chance to read Revisiting, what did you think of it? With contributors like Givens and Mauss, I assume it's an interesting read.

This looks interesting. Thanks for posting the link.


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