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8ballrollin 02-10-2008 10:40 PM

Dems and superdelegates
 
If the Hillary and Obama race goes down to the wire at the convention and it turns out the superdelegates have to decide the candidate, the conventional wisdom (pun intended) is that they give the nod to Hillary. If this happens, will Obama and his supporters leave the party?

Tex 02-10-2008 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by 8ballrollin (Post 183665)
If the Hillary and Obama race goes down to the wire at the convention and it turns out the superdelegates have to decide the candidate, the conventional wisdom (pun intended) is that they give the nod to Hillary. If this happens, will Obama and his supporters leave the party?

And go where?

No, I don't think this is likely, although I think we could see a backlash of blacks refusing to vote (similar to how some of us conservatives found ourselves feeling).

8ballrollin 02-10-2008 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Tex (Post 183669)
And go where?

http://www2.oprah.com/index.jhtml

BarbaraGordon 02-11-2008 12:16 AM

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Originally Posted by 8ballrollin (Post 183665)
If the Hillary and Obama race goes down to the wire at the convention and it turns out the superdelegates have to decide the candidate, the conventional wisdom (pun intended) is that they give the nod to Hillary.

The other issue is Michigan and Florida. If the contest continues to be as close as it is, those delegates could be enough to determine the winner. Hillary, who "won" the states, has indicated she's willing to take action to see that the delegates from these two states are seated and that they have their voting rights reinstated. (She ran uncontested in the two states, as the Democratic Party is punishing the states for early primaries by refusing to seat their delegates. The Party had asked the candidates to remove their names from the Michigan ballot; all but Clinton complied. The Party forbade any candidates from campaigning in Florida, so Clinton easily carried the state.)

Cali Coug 02-11-2008 12:21 AM

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Originally Posted by BarbaraGordon (Post 183709)
The other issue is Michigan and Florida. If the contest continues to be as close as it is, those delegates could be enough to determine the winner. Hillary, who "won" the states, has indicated she's willing to take action to see that the delegates from these two states are seated and that they have their voting rights reinstated. (She ran uncontested in the two states, as the Democratic Party is punishing the states for early primaries by refusing to seat their delegates. The Party had asked the candidates to remove their names from the Michigan ballot; all but Clinton complied. The Party forbade any candidates from campaigning in Florida, so Clinton easily carried the state.)

There is simply no chance the delegates from Florida and Michigan are seated to vote for Hillary before the contest is decided. Can you imagine what that would look like? The lawsuits that would be filed? Obama wasn't even on the ballot in Michigan (at his request to follow the DNC rules).

BarbaraGordon 02-11-2008 12:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Cali Coug (Post 183712)
There is simply no chance the delegates from Florida and Michigan are seated to vote for Hillary before the contest is decided. Can you imagine what that would look like? The lawsuits that would be filed? Obama wasn't even on the ballot in Michigan (at his request to follow the DNC rules).

I agree. I would not be surprised, though, if the vote is looking close and favoring Barack, if the party were to decide to re-poll those two states.

She has, incidentally, sworn to get the delegates seated. She's spinning the party punishment as a form of disenfranchisement.


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