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Gidget 07-14-2008 04:54 AM

Men on a Mission Calendars
 
The dude who created and produced these, Chad Hardy, got ex'd from the church. Said he thought it was a "little harsh" on the news tonight . . . .

http://www.sltrib.com/news/ci_9871783

Jeff Lebowski 07-14-2008 05:06 AM

Interesting quote from the article:

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On Friday a church spokeswoman declined to comment on Hardy or the calendar, but said that ''any church discipline is the result of actions not beliefs." Decisions are made at the local level and are based on individual circumstances and merits, spokeswoman Kim Farah said.

MikeWaters 07-14-2008 05:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Jeff Lebowski (Post 241794)
Interesting quote from the article:

as long as you don't let those beliefs actually exit from your mind to your mouth.

Speaking your beliefs is an action.

Tex 07-14-2008 05:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Jeff Lebowski (Post 241794)
Interesting quote from the article:

Another:

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An excommunicated person is removed from official church rolls, although they are still welcome at church services.
Just what we were discussing in the other thread.

Gidget 07-14-2008 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeWaters (Post 241797)
as long as you don't let those beliefs actually exit from your mind to your mouth.

Speaking your beliefs is an action.

I agree. Speaking your beliefs is an action.

UtahDan 07-14-2008 04:55 PM

Sounds like he made it easy for them. I'm inferring from six years of inactivity and his nonchalant attitude that he didn't care. Still, doesn't anyone else see this as an overreaction of the first order? He made a calendar with some guys with their shirts off for crying out loud. I do understand the need to proscribe the influence of apostates, but this? What am I missing here? This will encourage his repentance?

UtahDan 07-14-2008 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Gidget (Post 241875)
I agree. Speaking your beliefs is an action.

Don't worry Gidge, the chances that you and Surfah's Bishop or SP read this board is slim. :-)

Tex 07-14-2008 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by UtahDan (Post 241884)
Sounds like he made it easy for them. I'm inferring from six years of inactivity and his nonchalant attitude that he didn't care. Still, doesn't anyone else see this as an overreaction of the first order? He made a calendar with some guys with their shirts off for crying out loud. I do understand the need to proscribe the influence of apostates, but this? What am I missing here? This will encourage his repentance?

Obviously we don't know the reasoning of the council, but the handbook cites three purposes of discipline (from memory): (1) to save the transgressor, (2) to protect the innocent, and (3) to protect the good name of the church.

I suspect that this situation was precipitated by the need for the 3rd.

Gidget 07-14-2008 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by UtahDan (Post 241886)
Don't worry Gidge, the chances that you and Surfah's Bishop or SP read this board is slim. :-)

LOL, I will sleep much better tonight.


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