cougarguard.com — unofficial BYU Cougars / LDS sports, football, basketball forum and message board

cougarguard.com — unofficial BYU Cougars / LDS sports, football, basketball forum and message board (http://www.cougarguard.com/forum/index.php)
-   Current Events (http://www.cougarguard.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=12)
-   -   Deplorable ... (http://www.cougarguard.com/forum/showthread.php?t=12425)

tooblue 10-04-2007 02:37 PM

Deplorable ...
 
http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/10/03/dea...ent/index.html

How any one believes we no longer live in a racist society is beyond me.

Archaea 10-04-2007 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tooblue (Post 131146)
http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/10/03/dea...ent/index.html

How any one believes we no longer live in a racist society is beyond me.

I am shocked this sort of behavior still exists. It must exist in the poverty stricken subsets of urban society, as it does arise in normal society.

My son brought up the subject of racism as we were traveling to soccer, through some of our ethnic neighborhoods. He remarked how many of the kids of various ethnic backgrounds were cruel towards blacks. For example, he stated several asian and latino kids mocked a black kid whom he stood up for. He also noted that if a white kid made any of the remarks the asian or latino kids had made, they'd be severely disciplined and asked somewhat naively, "Why does every race hate white people?" Explaining the complexities of race relations is not an easy thing, other than to explain the extremes one witnesses are not the norm.

Donuthole 10-04-2007 03:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Archaea (Post 131151)
Explaining the complexities of race relations is not an easy thing, other than to explain the extremes one witnesses are not the norm.

That's just it. Nobody is saying that there aren't people with racist views and convictions in society. But to assert that those are the norm, and that society in general is racist, is inaccurate, IMO.

tooblue 10-04-2007 03:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Donuthole (Post 131161)
That's just it. Nobody is saying that there aren't people with racist views and convictions in society. But to assert that those are the norm, and that society in general is racist, is innacurate, IMO.

These racist people don't walk around in little bubbles. They are a product of our society, and not merely an abberation as many want to believe.

Racism is systematic, pervasive and unfortunately at many levels of governing tolerable. It is one of the greatest failings of north American society.

Donuthole 10-04-2007 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tooblue (Post 131168)
These racist people don't walk around in little bubbles. They are a product of our society, and not merely an abberation as many want to believe.

The problem racism is systematic, pervasive and unfortunately at many levels of governing tolerable. It is one of the greatest failings of north American society.

Sure it is systematic. Which is why it takes time to eradicate. However, My father is less racist than his father, and I am less racist than my father. I fully expect my children to be less racist than me.

Archaea 10-04-2007 03:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tooblue (Post 131168)
These racist people don't walk around in little bubbles. They are a product of our society, and not merely an abberation as many want to believe.

The problem racism is systematic, pervasive and unfortunately at many levels of governing tolerable. It is one of the greatest failings of north American society.

I believe you're too provincial in limiting the problems of racisim to North America. In my travels of the Seven Seas, it exists in all lands, every country and tongue. Wherever diversity exists, discrimination on the basis of that diversity can be found.

I disagree it is necessarily systematic. It is cultural first, and culture arises first and foremost in the family and extended family.

Our government doesn't promote. Now, certain segments of minority advocates unwittingly promote it, but show me any public pronouncement, other than by some black advocates, where it is taught in the schools, promoted by government or business. You will not be able to. It is preached in some ignorant homes of the uneducated.

JohnnyLingo 10-05-2007 07:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tooblue (Post 131168)
These racist people don't walk around in little bubbles. They are a product of our society, and not merely an abberation as many want to believe.

Racism is systematic, pervasive and unfortunately at many levels of governing tolerable. It is one of the greatest failings of north American society.

You say this as if racism is unique to North America.

That is laughable.

Does racism exist? Of course it does. And it always will. But I think as a whole, we are much much less racist than our grandparents and parents were 50 years ago.

SoonerCoug 10-05-2007 03:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnnyLingo (Post 131477)
Does racism exist? Of course it does. And it always will. But I think as a whole, we are much much less racist than our grandparents and parents were 50 years ago.

It's comforting to know that you're not quite as racist as your grandpa.

JohnnyLingo 10-05-2007 03:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SoonerCoug (Post 131504)
It's comforting to know that you're not quite as racist as your grandpa.

I'm not racist.

But feel free to continue saying I am. I really don't care what you think.

Tex 10-05-2007 03:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tooblue (Post 131146)
http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/10/03/dea...ent/index.html

How any one believes we no longer live in a racist society is beyond me.

The progress we've made in 50 years is apparently beyond you as well.


All times are GMT. The time now is 05:48 AM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.2
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.