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SeattleUte 09-18-2007 04:58 PM

To all those who think women belong in the home
 
Here's something to make male chauvenists' head spin:

http://www.paloaltodailynews.com/art...-9-katz-column

Elite colleges are reaching a tipping point wherein applications from qualified women and men with comparable credentials is reaching a 60:40 percent ratio. Men are becoming affirmative action cases.

Archaea 09-18-2007 04:59 PM

You won't find many on this site, you'll need to fish elsewhere.

SeattleUte 09-18-2007 05:01 PM

HEre's another article on the same subject.

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/03/23/op...rssnyt&emc=rss

Tex 09-18-2007 05:05 PM

President Hinckley noted a similar trend in college enrollment a year ago.

http://lds.org/conference/talk/displ...646-23,00.html

What does this have to do with whether or not women should stay in the home?

SeattleUte 09-18-2007 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Archaea (Post 124950)
You won't find many on this site, you'll need to fish elsewhere.

I disagree. Goatnapper, Indy, Ute4Evever, Tex, among others have expressed the view that a woman's place is in the home at least as far as they are concerned.

Tex 09-18-2007 05:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SeattleUte (Post 124957)
I disagree. Goatnapper, Indy, Ute4Evever, Tex, among others have expressed the view that a woman's place is in the home at least as far as they are concerned.

Did I?

SeattleUte 09-18-2007 05:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tex (Post 124956)
President Hinckley noted a similar trend in college enrollment a year ago.

http://lds.org/conference/talk/displ...646-23,00.html

What does this have to do with whether or not women should stay in the home?

A premise for your position that they should stay in the home is that they are better suited and therefore happier with domesticity than a man. (This must necessarily be your premise unless you think a woman should be pigeonholed into a way of life for which she is less suited and that will make her miserable because this is God's mandate.) The college entrance data belies this premise/assertion.

Tex 09-18-2007 05:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SeattleUte (Post 124962)
A premise for your position that they should stay in the home is that they are better suited and therefore happier with domesticity than a man. (This must necessarily be your premise unless you think a woman should be pigeonholed into a way of life for which she is less suited and that will make her miserable because this is God's mandate.) The college entrance data belies this premise/assertion.

"My position"? I don't recall stating a position on this topic yet.

I would be interested to understand why you think female college enrollment rates has anything to do with whether or not a woman "should" stay in the home.

SeattleUte 09-18-2007 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Tex (Post 124965)
"My position"? I don't recall stating a position on this topic yet.

I would be interested to understand why you think female college enrollment rates has anything to do with whether or not a woman "should" stay in the home.

It's not conclusive. It's a strong indicator that a majority of women should be in the workforce for the good of society as well as their own economic well being and security as well as happiness. I don't need to spell it out to you why the statistic is relevant as to women's proper place, generalizing of course. It suffices to note that those hiring for elite jobs count a degree from an elite university as a leading indicator of any candidate's suitablity for the job.

Tex, are you sure you're not a lawyer? You seem to be so at ease spouting sophistry.

Tex 09-18-2007 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by SeattleUte (Post 124976)
It's not conclusive. It's a strong indicator that a majority of women should be in the workforce for the good of society as well as their own economic well being and security as well as happiness. I don't need to spell it out to you why the statistic is relevant as to women's proper place, generalizing of course. It suffices to note that those hiring for elite jobs count a degree from an elite university as a leading indicator of any candidate's suitablity for the job.

Tex, are you sure you're not a lawyer? You seem to be so at ease spouting sophistry.

You're arguing with me as though I've disagreed with you, but I haven't (yet).

I'm genuinely curious: why in your mind does high female enrollment naturally lead to the conclustion that "majority of women should be in the workforce for the good of society as well as their own economic well being and security as well as happiness."

It seems like a non sequiter to me. High female enrollment could mean highly educated mothers at home, could it not? I don't see how you get from one to the other.


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