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il Padrino Ute 03-23-2009 05:39 AM

This is a few weeks old, but is more evidence that Obama is a socialis...
 
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/tom-blu...socialist-bush

So, not only is Obama a socialist, but a liar.

Tell us something we don't already know.

MikeWaters 03-23-2009 01:11 PM

Take heart, because not only he is a liar and a socialist, he is also, as Americans are beginning to realize, completely incompetent, and in over his head.

While initially the rest of the world breathed a sigh of relief when he won, I think a lot of those same people are now saying "Oh S***, what is going on?"

Cali Coug 03-23-2009 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by il Padrino Ute (Post 302435)
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/tom-blu...socialist-bush

So, not only is Obama a socialist, but a liar.

Tell us something we don't already know.

Let me get this straight. Obama said it is silly to call him a socialist (for reasons absolutely obvious to all but a handful of people). He then pointed out that nobody called GWB a socialist when he did even more than Obama is currently doing back in September, thereby highlighting the silliness of the "socialist" claim and the hypocrisy of those on the right making the claim. Then a guy says that Obama must be a socialist, because he supported Bush's plan and "thinks Bush was a socialist" (entirely missing the point that Obama DIDN'T think Bush was a socialist, and neither did anyone else at the time)?

Great logic there, Il Pad. I can see why you took the time to provide us all with a link to that brilliant article.

il Padrino Ute 03-23-2009 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeWaters (Post 302440)
Take heart, because not only he is a liar and a socialist, he is also, as Americans are beginning to realize, completely incompetent, and in over his head.

While initially the rest of the world breathed a sigh of relief when he won, I think a lot of those same people are now saying "Oh S***, what is going on?"

That's a good point. Obama would even piss off the French these days with his incompetence.

It's amazing that some - even on this site who seem to be intelligent - would be fooled into thinking Obama had enough experience not only to be POTUS, but to use the bathroom by himself.

Archaea 03-23-2009 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by il Padrino Ute (Post 302444)
That's a good point. Obama would even piss off the French these days with his incompetence.

It's amazing that some - even on this site who seem to be intelligent - would be fooled into thinking Obama had enough experience not only to be POTUS, but to use the bathroom by himself.

Incompetent at what, given what standard?

Incompetent at being a conservative, which he never claimed to be?

I don't take much heart given the complete whitewash the dominant media is providing him. Virtually no harsh criticism. For one slight period, I'd love to see a Republican get the sort of prissy treatment Obama has received his entire campaign and presidency. If Obama makes mistakes, will the media portray them as mistakes?

il Padrino Ute 03-23-2009 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Archaea (Post 302447)
Incompetent at what, given what standard?

Incompetent at being a conservative, which he never claimed to be?

I don't take much heart given the complete whitewash the dominant media is providing him. Virtually no harsh criticism. For one slight period, I'd love to see a Republican get the sort of prissy treatment Obama has received his entire campaign and presidency. If Obama makes mistakes, will the media portray them as mistakes?

Incompetent at being POTUS, or even as a locoal politician for that matter.

Archaea 03-23-2009 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by il Padrino Ute (Post 302448)
Incompetent at being POTUS, or even as a locoal politician for that matter.

Again what is the standard?

At making himself look good to the press, which is a large part of the job? In that respect, I predict, he'll be a raving success.

Incompetent at making the best judgments for the situations he encounters? Maybe so. But is he incompetent or just wrong-minded? I suggest he simply believes in wrong-headed principles and is not necessary deficient in his capacities.

I suggest his values are not consistent with yours and mine, but he is competent at enforcing his values.

Bush was incompetent at enforcing Republican values and was wrong-headed in some of the values he held. That's the distinction I'm trying to make.

For example, Obama, despite what his handlers want to portray, wants to restrict gun ownership. You and I can only hope he is incompetent and fails in that regards.

il Padrino Ute 03-23-2009 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Archaea (Post 302461)
Again what is the standard?

At making himself look good to the press, which is a large part of the job? In that respect, I predict, he'll be a raving success.

Incompetent at making the best judgments for the situations he encounters? Maybe so. But is he incompetent or just wrong-minded? I suggest he simply believes in wrong-headed principles and is not necessary deficient in his capacities.

I suggest his values are not consistent with yours and mine, but he is competent at enforcing his values.

Bush was incompetent at enforcing Republican values and was wrong-headed in some of the values he held. That's the distinction I'm trying to make.

For example, Obama, despite what his handlers want to portray, wants to restrict gun ownership. You and I can only hope he is incompetent and fails in that regards.

Incompetent at doing what is best for the country as a whole.

I agree that Bush was incompetent in regards to Republican ideals. He did more damage to the Reagan GOP than any liberal ever could have. But Obama will be incompetent at maintaining what made this a great country not only strong as a military force - but economically, as his brand of socialism will change this country for the worse. We'll probably long for the days of Carter after Obama leaves office.


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