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Archaea 02-13-2008 12:18 AM

Abraham/Isaac sacrifice
 
Who here believes the narrative as proposed?

I'm aware of its metaphorical value, but does everybody simply accept at face value that Abraham was requested and accepted the fact that he intended to sacrifice Isaac? I will not deny the power of the analogy, but whether anybody is really willing to kill one's offspring, is very difficult for me to accept. It is also plausible for me that something which evolved into the current narrative actually occurred, but what do I know.

Any other speculations?

PaloAltoCougar 02-13-2008 12:47 AM

I believe it, but mainly because believing it adds power to the message; i.e., I want to believe it. I can only take Kierkegaard in small doses, but his Panegyric Upon Abraham, at the beginning of Fear and Trembling, has provided fodder for at least a half dozen talks I've given over the years. Like the narrator in that introduction, I'm incapable of fully understanding or appreciating Abraham, but it's an interesting exercise to try.

DrumNFeather 02-13-2008 01:00 AM

The Abraham/Issac story was presented recently in a lesson I attended as an example of the "refiner's fire."

I suppose the point was that Abraham wanted all of the things he wanted for himself, not because it was the lord's will. Through his faith and the refiner's fire of having to give Issac up as an offering to the Lord, he was showing the lord that he would do the lord's will when asked.

SoonerCoug 02-13-2008 01:10 AM

The Abraham/Isaac sacrifice is one of the most damaging and stupid stories in all scripture, IMO.

Job also ranks right up there.

JohnnyLingo 02-13-2008 01:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SoonerCoug (Post 184561)
The Abraham/Isaac sacrifice is one of the most damaging and stupid stories in all scripture, IMO.

Job also ranks right up there.

You never disappoint, Sooner.

Inflammatory statement with zero explanation or support. Ding!

Ready for this? My Old Testament teacher believes Abraham actually sacrificed Isaac and God raised Isaac from the dead later.

scottie 02-13-2008 01:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SoonerCoug (Post 184561)
The Abraham/Isaac sacrifice is one of the most damaging and stupid stories in all scripture, IMO.

Job also ranks right up there.

Noah and the flood, Moses and the Red Sea, Daniel and the lion's den, baby Moses floating down the river...

SoonerCoug 02-13-2008 01:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnnyLingo (Post 184564)
You never disappoint, Sooner.

Inflammatory statement with zero explanation or support. Ding!

Ready for this? My Old Testament teacher believes Abraham actually sacrificed Isaac and God raised Isaac from the dead later.

Your Old Testament teacher is an idiot. You can tell him I said that.

JohnnyLingo 02-13-2008 01:49 AM

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Originally Posted by SoonerCoug (Post 184570)
Your Old Testament teacher is an idiot. You can tell him I said that.

I'll be sure to do that.

Aren't you even a little curious as to how he arrived there? He's a converted Jew, btw.

Also, you have no substance. You can tell you I said that.

pelagius 02-13-2008 01:54 AM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyLingo (Post 184571)
I'll be sure to do that.

Aren't you even a little curious as to how he arrived there? He's a converted Jew, btw.

Also, you have no substance. You can tell you I said that.

The idea that Isaac was raised from the dead is found is some rabbinic midrash. I assume he is drawing on those sources.


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