I will tell you what is shocking to me is that this is the first time anything like this has happened.

People with power run amuk all the time. There is a judge up here in Davis County that if you get in front of him, don't bother getting an attorney. Whatever your attorney and the prosecutor work out, the judge ingores it and throws the book at the person.

I have heard both non-mormons and mormons talk about him and say he brings his orthodox mormon view to every case he judges. In other words, justice is a hell of a lot more important than mercy.

I just hope this thing coming out in the open isn't going to open up a whole new effort by the fundamentalists to nail those damn athletes that get special treatment.

Which one?

I seriously don't know the answer, which I guess would make it the former?

That said, knowing you're old and have a 20-something cheerleader for your avatar weirds me out.

I guess I think we both might be right.

I used the word 'dick' once on a message board.

I understand why it might weird you out. When I was young a lot of things I do now would have wierded me out. Based on my beliefs about old people, I am surprised I can walk and chew gum at the same time.

The fact that I worked with his insanity does not mean he isn't insane. He seemed really concerned that I refused to go to Family Home Evening but couldn't rationalize that as a reason to withhold my E.E. The lack of trust from a Bishop was sad, especially when he implied inspiration but lacked the truth.

But you did it anyway because it was the easiest means to an end. Then I bet you moved to another ward.

This is a great point. All we have is one side of the story, yet so many on this board rush to condemn the Bishop & SP as mullahs. Whatever - I agree you are far more likely to encounter an arrogant, jerk college athlete than an overbearing, jerk BYU Bishop.

Look, anybody who went to BYU knows that nobody has good church attendance as a student, and that nobody gets kicked out for "poor attendance". Since speculation seems to be today's drink, I'd bet all I have that this bishop did all he could to keep this kid in school.

I went to a Utah Grizzlies hockey game about a decade ago. They had the hot tub set up outside the glass. I watched some old drunk guy ogle the girls in bikinis. I had a similar experience at a Red Rocks (wife = former gymnastics coach...don't judge me) meet with some creepy old guy checking out the gymnasts.

Listen, I've got hormones. I think. But old dudes should stick to checking out old chicks. That ought to be a law or something.

Ok.

Personally, I think the kid confessed to believing in UFO's and told Bishop Childs that he wanted to run away to a nudist colony. Therefore, Childs was totally justified in pulling his endorsement, and the HC office didn't get involved.

There, now the story finally makes sense. Thanks for "freeing" us, Smails.

How much would you like to bet. This isn't CB so we can put $50 on it.

In order for the Bishop to have had to do all he could to keep this kid in school, the kid would have to have broken one of God's commandments and done so repeatedly. Do we have a bet.