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MikeWaters 09-12-2007 01:32 AM

BYU grad sued for barring gays from adoption website
 
http://www.potentialparents.com/adoptiondotcom.html

and he loses...

http://www.nclrights.org/cases/adoptiondotcom.htm
http://www.nclrights.org/releases/pr...atn_052107.htm

il Padrino Ute 09-12-2007 02:08 AM

I think this is beyond ridiculous.

If the adoption is a private company, how can a court force it to serve patrons it doesn't want? Are there no other adoption services anywhere in that part of California?

MikeWaters 09-12-2007 02:12 AM

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Originally Posted by il Padrino Ute (Post 122607)
I think this is beyond ridiculous.

If the adoption is a private company, how can a court force it to serve patrons it doesn't want? Are there no other adoption services anywhere in that part of California?

I think under the same principle that I can't rent my house out and then prohibit blacks from renting.

il Padrino Ute 09-12-2007 02:19 AM

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Originally Posted by MikeWaters (Post 122612)
I think under the same principle that I can't rent my house out and then prohibit blacks from renting.

I disagree with this as well. It's your house. If you decided you didn't want to rent to a specific group, you shouldn't be forced to do so. If you were never able to rent your house, it would be your fault. The courts don't need to step in and tell you what to do.

I have no problem with folks boycotting the adoption service. The guy only did it to himself by discrimination. It would have been better to let his business go down the tubes than to have the court force him to accept clients.

jay santos 09-12-2007 02:49 AM

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Originally Posted by il Padrino Ute (Post 122616)
I disagree with this as well. It's your house. If you decided you didn't want to rent to a specific group, you shouldn't be forced to do so. If you were never able to rent your house, it would be your fault. The courts don't need to step in and tell you what to do.

I have no problem with folks boycotting the adoption service. The guy only did it to himself by discrimination. It would have been better to let his business go down the tubes than to have the court force him to accept clients.

You really don't see the problem with this? Then you have the potential for white people excluding black people from all but the worst neighborhoods.

il Padrino Ute 09-12-2007 02:52 AM

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Originally Posted by jay santos (Post 122637)
You really don't see the problem with this? Then you have the potential for white people excluding black people from all but the worst neighborhoods.

I believe that the owner of a property has the right to do whatever he wants to do with it.

Now, would I do it? Never. But if someone wants to do so, it's his right as the owner.

Are you saying all white people are bigoted against blacks?

jay santos 09-12-2007 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by il Padrino Ute (Post 122639)
I believe that the owner of a property has the right to do whatever he wants to do with it.

Now, would I do it? Never. But if someone wants to do so, it's his right as the owner.

Are you saying all white people are bigoted against blacks?

I'm saying these things have happened in the past, thus we have laws.

MikeWaters 09-12-2007 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by il Padrino Ute (Post 122639)
I believe that the owner of a property has the right to do whatever he wants to do with it.

Now, would I do it? Never. But if someone wants to do so, it's his right as the owner.

Are you saying all white people are bigoted against blacks?

can a restaurant owner refuse to allow blacks in his restaurant?

BYU71 09-12-2007 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeWaters (Post 122712)
can a restaurant owner refuse to allow blacks in his restaurant?

Restaurants are public facilities. Don't stretch things too far. You can smoke in your own house but not in a public restaurant.

On another note. The church has family services which handles adoptions, I think. Do they have to let gays use their services.

MikeWaters 09-12-2007 02:36 PM

According to this article, what the company decided (i.e. the BYU grad) is that they would not allow anyone from California to participate, in order to prevent gays from being on their site, and therefore complied with their settlement agreement.

In other words, they chose not to allow anyone from California participate, lest they have to include gays.


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