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Archaea 05-29-2007 01:20 AM

Illiad online
 
http://www.ancientgreekstudies.com/Iliad/iliad.htm

Archaea 05-29-2007 01:29 AM

Okay, Greek scholars, so I'm an idiot, but look at the second word of the Illiad in Greek, which means sing in imperative form.

What is that second letter? It's not made the way I've seen the Greek alphabet before. Help, I'm an idiot.

All-American 05-29-2007 01:35 AM

It's called a digamma. Looks like an f, sounds like a w. Or so it is thought. You haven't seen it before because it's an archaic letter that isn't listed with the rest of the greek alphabet. The w sound just went out of use.

Archaea 05-29-2007 01:45 AM

For a moment I thought I was a complete moron. Thanks for the explanation. The grammar is tough enough without sneaking in a never revealed letter to me.

Are there any other "archaic" letters that I would like to know about?

All-American 05-29-2007 02:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Archaea (Post 85107)
For a moment I thought I was a complete moron. Thanks for the explanation. The grammar is tough enough without sneaking in a never revealed letter to me.

Are there any other "archaic" letters that I would like to know about?

A couple of them: "san", "qoppa," and "sampi" that had an s, q, and some sort of a fricative sound, respectively.

BarbaraGordon 05-29-2007 02:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Archaea (Post 85107)
For a moment I thought I was a complete moron.

An hypothesis not necessarily disproved, eh? ;)

Jeff Lebowski 05-29-2007 04:33 AM

This thread is great. "Hey guys, I am going to read the Illiad in Greek, but I am stuck on the second word." That's awesome, Archaea.

il Padrino Ute 05-29-2007 04:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff Lebowski (Post 85133)
This thread is great. "Hey guys, I am going to read the Illiad in Greek, but I am stuck on the second word." That's awesome, Archaea.

Nice one, Doc.

:)

Jeff Lebowski 05-29-2007 04:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by il Padrino Ute (Post 85136)
Nice one, Doc.

:)

Hey, you've got to admire the chutzpah of the guy. I suppose once you tackle an ironman, nothing is intimidating.

SeattleUte 05-29-2007 04:42 AM

I like the Samuel Butler English translation of the Iliad that's online a lot.


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