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Tex 04-03-2008 01:25 AM

Obama knows he's going to get slaughtered on national security
 
His distortion of McCain's "100 year" comment to mean a "100-year war" is evidence of how insecure his campaign is on the issue. If Obama had any real security credentials, he'd be able to attack on substance. Instead, he's relying on uneducated voters who don't understand what McCain meant.

Amusing.

http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2008/0...-war-comments/

TripletDaddy 04-03-2008 01:35 AM

What exactly are McCain's national security credentials? That he was a soldier in Vietnam?

What were Clintons or Bush's?

Since the Pentagon makes our security decisions, I am not really worried about credentials. Perhaps you can help me understand what McCain knows that Obama does NOT know or cannot readily find out from one of his cabinet members or advisors?

This is a bi-partisan comment, actually. I am not convinced that any of our past presidents had any special or noteworthy "national security credentials." What were Reagan's?

The older I get, the more I realize that our Presidents do very little other than travel around, give speeches, and waste taxpayer money on elaborate motorcades.

nikuman 04-03-2008 02:04 AM

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Originally Posted by TripletDaddy (Post 204480)
What were Reagan's?

The older I get, the more I realize that our Presidents do very little other than travel around, give speeches, and waste taxpayer money on elaborate motorcades.

I generally agree. However, I'm still very convinced (and this may, in fact, be my quirkiest political belief) that Reagan's military policies brought down the Soviet Union. Star Wars was the most effective weapon never built.

il Padrino Ute 04-03-2008 02:12 AM

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Originally Posted by nikuman (Post 204497)
I generally agree. However, I'm still very convinced (and this may, in fact, be my quirkiest political belief) that Reagan's military policies brought down the Soviet Union. Star Wars was the most effective weapon never built.

I agree. Reagan unapologetically telling Gorbachev that the US would defend itself against the Soviet Union is what I believe won the cold war. Gorbachev felt that it wasn't a bluff.

Cali Coug 04-03-2008 03:06 AM

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Originally Posted by nikuman (Post 204497)
I generally agree. However, I'm still very convinced (and this may, in fact, be my quirkiest political belief) that Reagan's military policies brought down the Soviet Union. Star Wars was the most effective weapon never built.

But I think his point was that Reagan had no military experience or bona fides and yet Tex would still enthusiastically point out how great he thought Reagan was in foreign affairs.

il Padrino Ute 04-03-2008 03:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Cali Coug (Post 204516)
But I think his point was that Reagan had no military experience or bona fides and yet Tex would still enthusiastically point out how great he thought Reagan was in foreign affairs.

You don't think ending the Cold War is good foreign affair?

Cali Coug 04-03-2008 03:17 AM

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Originally Posted by il Padrino Ute (Post 204520)
You don't think ending the Cold War is good foreign affair?

We are talking about foreign affairs experience prior to being elected. I don't think Reagan could have claimed ending the Cold War as experience prior to his election. What am I missing?

il Padrino Ute 04-03-2008 03:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Cali Coug (Post 204524)
We are talking about foreign affairs experience prior to being elected. I don't think Reagan could have claimed ending the Cold War as experience prior to his election. What am I missing?

Then I misread your post above, as I thought you posted that Tex thought Reagan was great in foreign affairs, rather than any experience before he took office.

I agree with you that Reagan didn't have any experience in it before he took office.

Archaea 04-03-2008 03:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Cali Coug (Post 204516)
But I think his point was that Reagan had no military experience or bona fides and yet Tex would still enthusiastically point out how great he thought Reagan was in foreign affairs.

But Reagan had been governor of California and Obama has no experience whatsoever. Reagan had the ear of the military, but Obama is considered the enemy of the military. That aspect is significant.

Cali Coug 04-03-2008 03:21 AM

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Originally Posted by il Padrino Ute (Post 204526)
Then I misread your post above, as I thought you posted that Tex thought Reagan was great in foreign affairs, rather than any experience before he took office.

I agree with you that Reagan didn't have any experience in it before he took office.

No. My point with Tex was that Tex wouldn't have ever mentioned with Reagan his total lack of foreign affairs experience prior to assuming the presidency, and yet today would tell you Reagan was one of the greatest foreign affairs presidents we have had. Me thinks Tex focuses on "experience" as a critical issue only when it suits him.


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