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mpfunk 04-17-2007 08:35 PM

My opinion on the change in the honor code
 
This change is long overdue. The change finally puts the honor code in line with the position of the church. Now we just need to get the membership of the church to embrace this thought process.

I think it is a joke that the honor code was out of line with church teachings for so many years.

bYuPride 04-17-2007 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by mpfunk (Post 74411)
This change is long overdue. The change finally puts the honor code in line with the position of the church. Now we just need to get the membership of the church to embrace this thought process.

I think it is a joke that the honor code was out of line with church teachings for so many years.


what changes were made to the honor code?

YOhio 04-17-2007 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by bYuPride (Post 74420)
what changes were made to the honor code?

Football players on the two-deep are now exempt.

Jeff Lebowski 04-17-2007 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by bYuPride (Post 74420)
what changes were made to the honor code?

Premarital sex is still verboten, but goalies are now allowed to use their hands.

pelagius 04-17-2007 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by bYuPride (Post 74420)
what changes were made to the honor code?

I think mpfunk is referring to the article in the Trib:

http://www.sltrib.com/news/ci_5684555

Quote:

The new section of the honor code application reads, in part: "Brigham Young University will respond to homosexual behavior rather than to feelings or orientation and welcomes as full members of the university community all whose behavior meets university standards. . . . One's stated sexual orientation is not an Honor Code issue. However, the Honor Code requires all members of the university community to manifest a strict commitment to the law of chastity."

il Padrino Ute 04-18-2007 12:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Jeff Lebowski (Post 74441)
Premarital sex is still verboten, but goalies are now allowed to use their hands.

Nice.

jay santos 04-18-2007 03:51 AM

I finally read the actual change in the text of the Honor Code, and maybe I'm a little dense, but I don't see much of a difference.

What kind of behavior would be punished under the old policy that would not be punished now? Example?

Indy Coug 04-18-2007 03:56 AM

Apparently, if you told someone that you have same sex attraction, then they could turn you into the HC.

Of course, I have a hard time seeing a gay student at BYU telling that kind of secret to very many people, and if they did, it would probably be to a friend that wouldn't then stab them in the back by turning them into the HC.

IMO, this rewording has some modest symbolic value, but very little practical value.

jay santos 04-18-2007 04:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Indy Coug (Post 74573)
Apparently, if you told someone that you have same sex attraction, then they could turn you into the HC.

Of course, I have a hard time seeing a gay student at BYU telling that kind of secret to very many people, and if they did, it would probably be to a friend that wouldn't then stab them in the back by turning them into the HC.

IMO, this rewording has some modest symbolic value, but very little practical value.

The text before (from the SL Trib article):

"Brigham Young University will respond to student behavior rather than to feelings or orientation. . . . Advocacy of a homosexual lifestyle (whether implied or explicit) or any behaviors that indicate homosexual conduct, including those not sexual in nature, are inappropriate and violate the Honor Code."

So based on the text before, I don't know how you can kick someone out for admitting they have homosexual tendencies, unless they are advocating homosexuality by promoting it as morally acceptable, which is also against the rules in the new Honor Code.

I see absolutely no change in the content.

Indy Coug 04-18-2007 04:13 AM

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Originally Posted by jay santos (Post 74577)
The text before (from the SL Trib article):

"Brigham Young University will respond to student behavior rather than to feelings or orientation. . . . Advocacy of a homosexual lifestyle (whether implied or explicit) or any behaviors that indicate homosexual conduct, including those not sexual in nature, are inappropriate and violate the Honor Code."

So based on the text before, I don't know how you can kick someone out for admitting they have homosexual tendencies, unless they are advocating homosexuality by promoting it as morally acceptable, which is also against the rules in the new Honor Code.

I see absolutely no change in the content.

Well, that's how I read it too, but I was just trying to explain how it was interpreted by others that saw the rewording as significant.


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