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Archaea 05-10-2010 05:48 PM

Failed Judicial Nominations
 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of..._United_States

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There was still an appointment to be made for a replacement for Sandra Day O'Connor, and on October 3, 2005 Bush nominated Harriet Miers, a corporate attorney from Texas who had served as Bush's private attorney and as White House Counsel. Miers was widely perceived as unqualified for the position — she had never served as a judge — and lacked a clear record on controversial issues. The nomination was immediately attacked by politicians and commentators from across the political spectrum. At Miers' request, Bush withdrew her nomination on October 27, ostensibly to avoid violating executive privilege by disclosing details of her work at the White House. Four days later, Bush nominated Samuel Alito to the seat. Alito was confirmed by a vote of 58–42 on January 31, 2006.
Actually, Bush for his criticism appears to have nominated qualified justices, sans Miers of course.

Obama gets an easy pass on an unqualified candidate. Go figure.

MikeWaters 05-10-2010 06:29 PM

Kagan is a known quantity among the power-elite in Washington.

Miers was not apparently an insider in the same way. She had not spent her life ingratiating herself with those in political power, other than her narrow Texas circle.

Kagan is "brilliant" we are told over and over. Without evidence.

SeattleUte 05-10-2010 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeWaters (Post 310936)
Kagan is a known quantity among the power-elite in Washington.

Miers was not apparently an insider in the same way. She had not spent her life ingratiating herself with those in political power, other than her narrow Texas circle.

Kagan is "brilliant" we are told over and over. Without evidence.

How do you define "brilliant"? Summa at Princeton and at Harvard law, editor in chief of the Harvard Law Review, Dean of Harvard's law school at a young age (the first woman), professor at Chicago, practiced with the foremost litigation firm in the United States.

Does that meet your prima facie case for brilliant? "Without evidence" seems a stretch in any event.

I know she stands for much that you reject in terms of your personal beliefs. But I don't think attacking her intelligence is a very credible way to critique her nomination or at least keep her honest.

MikeWaters 05-10-2010 07:32 PM

Her work product seems to consist mainly of friends in high places. It's a club, once you are in, you are in.

We live in a society full of douchebags who seek power, and in doing so, try and never take any positions on issues that might come to haunt them later.

Take the poster named "Adam" as an example. There is another lawyer who has been on CG who I am told has gone to lengths to erase his record.

What we see is that they have positions, and want to discuss them, but are paranoid about being on the record.

Kagan is obviously that to the nth degree. Lessons in non-courage. We have now entirely turned away from our Borks. We now desire intellectual lightweights with no work product.

Archaea 05-10-2010 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by SeattleUte (Post 310937)
How do you define "brilliant"? Summa at Princeton and at Harvard law, editor in chief of the Harvard Law Review, Dean of Harvard's law school at a young age (the first woman), professor at Chicago, practiced with the foremost litigation firm in the United States.

Does that meet your prima facie case for brilliant? "Without evidence" seems a stretch in any event.

I know she stands for much that you reject in terms of your personal beliefs. But I don't think attacking her intelligence is a very credible way to critique her nomination or at least keep her honest.

She has positions achievable by virtue of her knowing the right people and being the right gender at the time. Note Mike did not say she was stupid, and she obviously did a journeyman's job to get the degrees but none of that is prima facie evidence of brilliance.

She is like our other current nominees, a coward, unwilling to speak out. And that pedigree might be enough to get her a job, but it doesn't sound like she stood out any where.

Mike is right, she simply knew the right people. There must be better people amongst the liberal elite, somebody who's actually articulated a public position on something relevant.

RedHeadGal 05-11-2010 06:27 PM

is that how law review worked at your law school? knowing the right people?

does she come from money? I don't even know. how did she get on the Princeton path in the first place?

Archaea 05-11-2010 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by RedHeadGal (Post 310954)
is that how law review worked at your law school? knowing the right people?

does she come from money? I don't even know. how did she get on the Princeton path in the first place?

Law review was the result of kissing ass with the profs, and being in good graces of those upper classmen who helped make the decision.


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