they exist to mutually serve each other
but the repressive attitude is responsible for mutual sexual dissatisfaction.
You tell girls, no, no, no. What are they supposed to think after marriage? Icky. A large of women in the Church don't seek after sexual satisfaction or even sexual enjoyment. That's because the positive aspects of sex are not talked about. Men don't know how to have a positive sexual relationship with their wives, Hollywood and pornography misinform, and women are also left out in the cold. You'd be surprised how many miserable marriages out there exist, solely or primarily due to a lack of sexual understanding of the needs of each other. |
The responsibility to educate young men and young women about sex belongs to parents, not the church. What's more, sexual repression is not merely an issue of the church but of American society in general. It is far too easy to blame the church for said repression.
Boys are told no no no, but the harsh reality is objectification permeates our male dominated society and is in fact celebrated. The result is men who do little to truly engender intimacy in their relationships and instead belittle their spouse by telling them they are inadequate, when in fact the man himself is inadequate. Quote:
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You would be surprised of the numbers
Sexual dysfunction is very high among our church members. In sexually repressive societies, this is not surprising.
The Church has some good stuff, but it needs to counterbalance the abstinence talk. And frankly some of the talk is misinformed and childish. It is an area many of our leaders have no good information, because the subject is taboo. |
I know people who say they don't have a porn problem or a habit of looking at women's revealing areas as they walk by, etc.
They say usually the only times they think of porn and those problems are when they are at church, because it is talked about and talked about to death. So yes it is a problem that exists, but do you think perhaps it would be reduced if it wasn't brought up so often? Imagine every Sunday hearing "more and more people are smoking pot." After a while wouldn't that barrage be counterproductive, peaking the curiosity of the masses? |
Maybe they should encourage people not to read the BoM. Make it scandalous. Then you have to be a rebel to read it.
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this woman's perspective
first of all, thanks to tooblue for his comments, they put into words a lot of what I was thinking when I read the following post.
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Did you notice the number of General Conference talks in recent years about how men should respect women more in general, and their wives more specifically-- how we should be treated as equal partners? Perhaps this is addressed so much because of problems that have become increasingly known to church leaders. When I was a teenager, I didn't get a negative view of sex from church. I don't recall ever being taught in church that sex was bad, bad ,bad. I remember being taught that sex before marriage was bad, but that sex after marriage was a wonderful thing. Any negative views of sex were actually what I heard about rape and pornography as a young girl. This objectification of women frightened me. The bottom line for me became: I don't want to be treated as an object of sex. I want mutual respect with my husband. I apologize for this post not being very focused (my son is vying for my attention here), but my main point is that we should teach our YW to respect themselves and expect their future husbands to do the same. Sex education is not the job of the church, its the parent's job. And then later in life, perhaps engaged couples should take some sort of pre-marital counseling session together that encompasses, among other things, what sex is going to be like. |
Listening to Bateman is a trial of my faith.
I guess I can respect him as a 70 but despise him for what he did to BYU. |
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