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FMCoug 01-11-2008 03:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Jeff Lebowski (Post 173428)
A guy in my ward was looking for someone with the skills you listed recently. He told me he was willing to pay $125-150K per year. He was having a real tough time filling the position.
Interesting. I imagine he was having a tough time due to the perceptions of guys like me. But even at that, for me it's not just about being able to find A job. It's many jobs.

Meaning I could replace my income at another company without having to move.

FMCoug 01-11-2008 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by jay santos (Post 173426)
I see some of the responses. I really don't know. It's not my field. I know our IT guys make the same as they do at our Texas operations. The IT market might be soft here, but I don't see that as a "LDS culture thing". Twenty years ago it was one of the hottest IT markets around and programmers were making as much as doctors.

What are you gonna do when they figure out a guy in Bangalore can do your job for $8 an hour?

Two points:

1. I'm not an IT guy. I build the back-end systems for a website that is used by millions. A far cry from running servers for a branch office, etc.

2. The guy in Bangalor CAN'T do my job. It's been tried. I have made a TON of money doing haz-mat duty cleaning up the messes made by off shoring.

jay santos 01-11-2008 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by FMCoug (Post 173433)
Two points:

1. I'm not an IT guy. I build the back-end systems for a website that is used by millions. A far cry from running servers for a branch office, etc.

2. The guy in Bangalor CAN'T do my job. It's been tried. I have made a TON of money doing haz-mat duty cleaning up the messes made by off shoring.
1. IT = programming, no? Our best Oracle guy was making $150K. I don't know if that's your level or not. He moved to California but not for $, it was just because he wasn't LDS and didn't like Utah.

2. They're getting really good in Bangalore.

Jeff Lebowski 01-11-2008 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by FMCoug (Post 173433)
Two points:

1. I'm not an IT guy. I build the back-end systems for a website that is used by millions. A far cry from running servers for a branch office, etc.

2. The guy in Bangalor CAN'T do my job. It's been tried. I have made a TON of money doing haz-mat duty cleaning up the messes made by off shoring.
Amen to that. Off-shoring has reached a state of equilibrium, IMO. Demand for CS/IT experts in the US is very strong.

FMCoug 01-11-2008 03:54 PM
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Originally Posted by jay santos (Post 173434)
1. IT = programming, no?
Depends on the company. And granted I don't know what your company does. But the difference IMO is product vs. in-house. The software I work on IS our product. Not something that supports operations, etc. Writing code that is going to a server farm that is responsible for collecting the $400M / year in revenue is very different that writing code for the in-house accounting system.

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They're getting really good in Bangalore.
Spoken like a true finance guy. Keep doing it. The consulting fees to fix the mess are out of this world.

MikeWaters 01-11-2008 03:56 PM
My dad doesn't make much scratch as an oracle DBA in an academic environment.

I just wanted you to feel better jay.

jay santos 01-11-2008 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted by FMCoug (Post 173438)
Depends on the company. And granted I don't know what your company does. But the difference IMO is product vs. in-house. The software I work on IS our product. Not something that supports operations, etc. Writing code that is going to a server farm that is responsible for collecting the $400M / year in revenue is very different that writing code for the in-house accounting system.



Spoken like a true finance guy. Keep doing it. The consulting fees to fix the mess are out of this world.

LOL, touche. I like your feistiness.

Well, I'm sorry you couldn't find your dream job in Utah, FM. Maybe it's more competitive for the high paying jobs here, and it's easier in Texas.

FMCoug 01-11-2008 04:04 PM
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Originally Posted by jay santos (Post 173443)
LOL, touche. I like your feistiness.

Well, I'm sorry you couldn't find your dream job in Utah, FM. Maybe it's more competitive for the high paying jobs here, and it's easier in Texas.
LOL.

jay santos 01-11-2008 04:04 PM
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Originally Posted by MikeWaters (Post 173440)
My dad doesn't make much scratch as an oracle DBA in an academic environment.

I just wanted you to feel better jay.
:)

I think there might be a principle behind FM's rant. Some people sacrifice money for lifestyle in their careers. I would be making a lot more if I went into investment banking or consulting, but it wasn't the life I wanted. But I think people make those same lifestyle decisions in other states, not just Utah. And a more standard job like business or IT--I'm not sure it's gonna be that different Utah to another place apples to apples job.

BYU71 01-11-2008 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by FMCoug (Post 173406)
At least double. Probably even more than that. I am a non-management technical employee (very senior and damn good at what I do ... but still) and I make well into six figures.
That is great. I still think making well into six figures is a dang good income. Dang good.

However, you can also do well in Utah. I live here and my income tax will be well into 6 figures. :)


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