Stick a fork in him, Landis is done
 

Will this fork do?

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Sorry. I couldn't resist.

I don't think too many people were very surprised by the findings. I thought the ruling was fair. Like the statement implies, the French lab may have screwed up, but that doesn't change the fact that he was loaded to the gills.

I think its kind of funny how quite a few people point to this picture as evidence of his guilt:
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Way too much aggression for a 150 pound Pennsylvania Menanite.

You know, I miss Landis. I really liked him and regret that he is no longer in the tour or in racing.

For that matter, I really missd SKeletor, too, as I am not sure I have ever enjoyed a stage as mauch as I enjoyed watching him in the ITT a couple of years ago where he spent almost as much time in the ditch as he did on the road.

Landis or Hamilton, which one hurt the worse? Two stories that seems to good to be true that apparently were. Mine was Hamilton, seemed like a good guy who rode through unbelievable pain and then denied, denied, denied after getting caught.

Two sides of the same coin for me. The differenc eis that Hamilton's defense at his hearing (the chimerical twin) just seemed so ridiculous that I couldn't buy it for a minute. Landis' defense was more plausible (although still unlikely) and I was willing to wait for the hearign results until that crap his team pulled with Lemond. They both made me very unhappy.

Finding out that Lance doped was what broke me.

I found out from a birdie from the sky.

If you ahve evidence, put it up. I am not convinced LA doped, but given all that we know about the sport and its dopeurs, it is hard ot believe he didn't.

They hardest thing for me with LA is that he did all this during the juice era. I hope he was clean, I'm going to believe he was clean and I wish they would just leave it alone and move on.

LA being clean would be like a younger Dale Murphy leading the league in homers during the Bonds, Sosa, McGuire era.

Whats sad is that I read right through MWs post just now and didn't bat an eye until creeksters response.

I guess I've also just resigned myself to accept the fact that all phenomenal athletes are dopeurs. I'm preparing myself for USA swimming's announcement that their Golden Boy is pumped full of EPO.

That is a good analogy. So many of the winners before and after, as well as his main rivals (whom he dominated) have either proven to be dopers or are strongly suspected of being dopers that it is just hard ot believe he could succeed like he did without the needle. Like you, I hope so and try not to think about it too much.